[jude24]

I find that extremely offensive, and maintain that those who want to practice only "Contemporary" methods or music must also be considered idolators. Warren is really stretching it with his method. Local churches are taking it to the extreme, literally pushing out members who oppose Warren's views.

And now we see the real cause for the agenda.

I have yet to hear a critic of Rick Warren, and the Purpose-Driven Life for whom, in the end, it is not about the music.

[TommyDale]

The music is the most obvious change, because it affects peoples' emotions. But the music is only the tip of the iceberg.

[Irene Adler]

"I have yet to hear a critic of Rick Warren, and the Purpose-Driven Life for whom, in the end, it is not about the music."

The book is works-righteous. That is unscriptural. Scripture says that he who is Baptised and believes will be saved. Works do not save us. My pastor preaches against both the Purpose-Driven Life and the Left Behind series (which portrays a highly non-scriptural picture of the Second Coming).

No, it is NOT about the music, far from it.

[Quix]

LOL with tears.

Hadn't thought of that.

I think you're right--at least too right.

I love the old hymns. I love SOME modern stuff.

I hate volumes above 85db and one service I endured was 125-150db. A solid 2" thick end of a pew was vibrating like a timpany drumhead and my industrial strength earplugs were still allowing painful tweaks. I hurt for the innocent babies and children who were being tortured with that noise.

And, I was impolitely asked to leave the church--essentially--"I am unable as a pastor to meet your needs . . . " when I suggested it was medically damaging and unChristian as well as against Federal law to subject people to that volume level.

Interestingly, the married pastor so giving me the left boot of fellowship left a number of months later when caught continuing a relationship with a girlfriend he'd insisted he'd ended. Sigh.

Come quickly, Lord Jesus.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

One example does not a case make. Frankly, musical tastes are different and there is nothing wrong with that. Some people feel strongly about it. So what! Shouldn't we still love our brother?

I think the major role of the church is "to equip the saints for the work of the ministry." Church members should be going out into the world and reaching people for Christ. Pastors ought to be going out through the week and preaching the gospel, then coming together with the church and teaching the meat of Scripture. Music is part of the worship experience, also important. But sometimes these fights over music reveal that it is not about worship but rather entertainment. That's sad. And the church is trying to be "seeker-friendly" because no one is doing their job throughout the week.