Posted on 05/07/2005 7:54:12 AM PDT by Teflonic
How exactly does forceably preventing a minor child during his lunch break from speaking with his mother, possibly for the last time ever, when the authorities are FULLY AWARE that a call is from his mother (as they admitted the second call back from her in the office was after they snatched the phone from him and hung up on her) in any way "facilitate their safety and ability to receive an education"?
A son whose mother voluntarily took a job that took her halfway around the world from him, and into a war zone.
You don't have any children, do you?
And whose job keeps you safe in your home at night. She has more guts than you can even conceive of. When you start denigrating military troops for volunteering to serve their country by putting themselves in harm's way in distant points on the globe, then you've let your true colors show -- and it's yellow.
I do.
Run out of defenses to your position have you? Your last few posts have ignored any rational argument and are now in total personal attack mode.
You work in a government job don't you?
Sorry to butt in but you might want visit her page on this site and consider what you said.
If it wasn't for soldiers and military like this fellas mom, the teacher in question wouldn't be in a FREE country to act like a pompous a_s.
God bless this boy's mom and all our military in harms way protecting us all...even those who don't have a clue!
A son whose mother voluntarily took a job that took her halfway around the world from him, and into a war zone.
Damn the all-voluntary Army, huh? Damn combat boot wearing single mothers raising teenaged sons? Damn them for setting high standards & exemplifying love of country? Damn them for thinking Army bases are a better choice of environment for their kid than a lot of the alternatives? Damn single black women for taking control of their lives and teaching by example?
It's a personal attack to inquire whether you have children? Or to observe that your line of argumentation is feeble? I suppose it's understandable for you to believe those things if you think the situation being analyzed here is equivalent to Jonestown.
Good luck with the kids. It's been my experience that there is no greater gift a parent can give his children than that of emotional maturity. It enables even poor kids to become transcendent and succeed in life, even when a bad hand has been dealt them. My wife and I raised three successfully, and I'm proud to say that not only do they defy authority when the occasion calls for it, but they have the wisdom and maturity to accept the consequences that arise from their actions.
A wise teacher would have acknowledged that the incident was seen, stayed away and allowed the call to be finished, then have the student called to the office later if she wanted to pursue it. I'm sure the kid would have openly admitted he violated the policy.
The principal could have dealt a day or so suspension because of the rules infraction, while also showing the student he was concerned about him and his mom, even though he had to be consequential with rules enforcement.
I'm sure they could have found a way to allow the kid to get the next call without having to be in violation of school rules, or at least given the kid the confidence to ask about the procedure of taking such a call without violating the policy in the course of the discussion about the consequential punishment.
The teacher escalated this. Kids do get mad. That's not to condone the behaviour of the kid, but a teacher is much better off not enducing it. Most kids show up sheepishly on their own about a half hour later with an apology when they lose it, and accept punishment if warranted, if a teacher remains calm.
This story is out in the universe now. I consider it a lack of wisdom on the teacher's part, and the now the entire district is paying the price.
Very poor decisions by the teacher in this case, IMHO, and such decision making does not yield the natural authority teachers maintain when they make decisions that are not impulsive and whose outcomes rest on consequences that can be meted out when circumstances are calmer.
longjack
They won't get it. ;-)
For all you know, the teacher's husband is over there too.
You're doing the damning, not I. However, you are the one who says it makes you nervous being on the other side of town from your son the same age.
We just choose not to waste our time trying to reason with those incapable of seeing authority as sometimes in the wrong.
It used to be that if you were in the military and your kid acted up at school, the brass had a bit of a sit-down with you.
However, you are the one who says it makes you nervous being on the other side of town from your son the same age.
That's because he goes to high school 'on the other side of town'. Never know when some puffed-up, self-important little tyrant is going to try to separate him from his cell phone while he's reading a text message from Mom during his lunch break. But given his size & physical conditioning, I'm pretty sure that most people with any sense would try finesse & not go grabby.
It used to be that if you were in the military and your kid acted up at school, the brass had a bit of a sit-down with you.
Sure. Teachers were all the time firing off letters to commanders in the war zone & reporting bad school behavior of the children of their subordinates. Uh huh.
In any case, you're chasing your tail. Teachers whine for parental involvement but, apparently, only on their terms. You're defending the teacher who interrupted precious moments of 'parental involvement' and then think that war zone commanders should divert their efforts from trying to win a war & give her a talking to about a situation the school prevented her from participation in by not allowing her son to answer the telephone when she called the second time. Possibly because the school didn't want to hear what she might have to say?
You're a whirlwind of spin.
Good night. The pleasure has been all mine.
What is it that makes you think I am incapable of seeing authority as sometimes in the wrong? I never said the person in authority was wrong. Not once.
Quite the contrary. I stated the teacher's actions were clearly wrong. So it seems that there are other things you choose not to waste time on.
As such, I will choose not to waste my time engaging in any further conversation with someone who is incapable of reading
I never said the person in authority was wrong. Not once.
Quite the contrary. I stated the teacher's actions were clearly wrong.
(Rock Hill-AP) May 7, 2005 - An 11-year-old boy was arrested this week for carrying ten nails in his pocket at a Rock Hill middle school and charged with carrying an unlawful weapon.
Dianne McCray, assistant principal at Rawlinson Road Middle School, asked the child Wednesday what was jingling in his pocket and the student gave her the 3.5" long nails.
A school resource officer arrested him. His father picked him up and he was not taken to the police station.
The father said the nails were left in his pocket after a Boy Scout outing. He says it is ridiculous that his son faces an unlawful weapon charge. He says the boy threatened no one.
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