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To: John Valentine; sigSEGV

And your theories are what? The primordial soup coded and manufactured the just right media for life and animated it on the one planet with life sustaining abilities? Not just once but with multiple species and self sustaning sexual modifications to propagate? You actually believe this? The acceptance of creation is so much more likely and believable by such a large magnitude, it's hardly worth the effort.


22 posted on 05/06/2005 8:09:55 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: BipolarBob
The acceptance of creation is so much more likely and believable by such a large magnitude, it's hardly worth the effort.
Absolutely creation is much more believable. All you have to do is stick your fingers in your ears and claim you don't want to learn about the world around you. That's the easy way out. If no one had ever questioned the world around them and just accepted "That's just the way it is", don't you think the world would be a pretty boring place?
38 posted on 05/06/2005 8:20:23 PM PDT by sigSEGV
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To: BipolarBob
BipolarBob,

Your tagline absolutely rocks!

The primordial soup coded and manufactured the just right media for life and animated it on the one planet with life sustaining abilities?

I've seen reports of late that astronomers have detected strong evidence of some rather complex organic molecules in vast clouds of matter in nebulae. I think most of us would be suprised at the amount of complexity that can arise in what is essentially Brownian motion within such a cloud of the raw stuff of the universe. How complex such stuff can get is probably something we'll have to go find out for ourselves if we survive the next couple of millenia as a race.

That said, I really am rather pleased for the most part that the theory of Intellegent Design is getting a hard look by folks. It pretty much agrees with the way I've looked at the universe itself and the genesis of life itself for as long as I can remember. I'm not particularly sure which is the greater miracle; Man being formed whole in an instant of creation, or the shepherding that would appear to be necessary for our Maker to have allowed us to progress from lower to more advanced forms.

Either way, it's wonderful, and I'm happy to be here. :-)

I'd be interested in looking into some of the thoughts these days in information theory that work for/against both Darwinian and ID theories. It seems to me that information theory is an interesting way of looking at the problem.

One thing I didn't notice in the article was somemthing related that I've been extremely fascinated by for a while now, and that is fractal geometry. Most living things and natural processes seem to have a fractal nature to them. The more I learn about DNA, the more I think that the Lord uses some awesome fractal compression algorithms to store as much data as is possible in the smallest possible space.

I have a copy of the Human Genome project on disk here, and it is a huge amount of data. Even zipped, the data is freaking huge. I would imagine that you could compress the data a heck of a lot more if you were able to take advantage of the fact that to represent the four possible values you only need 2 bits of information. i.e, 00=A 01=T 10=G 11=C. I would imagine that someone has taken the time to calculate the absolute amount of information contained in the human genome. To me, that would be in interesting tidbit of information to know.

Sorry. i think my nerdiness is showing, so I'll stop now. :-)

215 posted on 05/06/2005 11:23:53 PM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: BipolarBob
And your theories are what? The primordial soup coded and manufactured the just right media for life and animated it on the one planet with life sustaining abilities? Not just once but with multiple species and self sustaning sexual modifications to propagate? You actually believe this? The acceptance of creation is so much more likely and believable by such a large magnitude, it's hardly worth the effort.

Not worth comment.

222 posted on 05/07/2005 3:11:10 AM PDT by John Valentine
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