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Student Suspended for Call to Mom in Iraq
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Posted on 05/06/2005 10:15:07 AM PDT by Responsibility1st
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To: Responsibility1st
I wonder where his dad is.....Maybe Iraq, too.
81
posted on
05/06/2005 11:07:40 AM PDT
by
Half Vast Conspiracy
(It's the tag line you're upset about, isn’t it?)
To: Terabitten
I think the school is going to be surprised at the national reaction.
82
posted on
05/06/2005 11:09:36 AM PDT
by
Sterco
To: camle
he said that this was making his grades fall. there is another article about this floating around here somewhere... A ten day suspension WILL drop a grade from a 'C' to a 'D' in some school districts. Suspended students do not get to participate in classes, take required quizzes and tests, or hear lectures. This alone will impact his grades... but if the school district is one of those that counts suspensions as unexcused absences, the reduction is mandatory.
Thus, the kid's statement that this incident is making his grades fall would be absolutely true.
83
posted on
05/06/2005 11:09:40 AM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(tagline now open, please ring bell.)
To: fatnotlazy
Here's another word for you "obtuse", as in, don't be obtuse.
84
posted on
05/06/2005 11:10:03 AM PDT
by
blu
(The Pope, the Gipper and the Iron Lady...now THAT'S a trifecta!)
To: ctlpdad
85
posted on
05/06/2005 11:10:56 AM PDT
by
Stellar Dendrite
(How soon will the U.S.A. be U.S.S.A.?)
To: fatnotlazy
Rules are rules. However, the parent always trumps the teacher. If a parent feels the need to call the student at school, at any time, from any place, the school must acquiesce to the parent, especially a soldier mom in a bloody war zone. Period, end of story. The teacher and administration was wrong.
86
posted on
05/06/2005 11:11:49 AM PDT
by
cyclotic
(Cub Scouts-Teach 'em young to be men, and politically incorrect in the process)
To: blu
And here's one for you: Manners.
To: jude24
It gets worse, on the other thread (see post 48 for link) mom apparently called back and instructed son to answer phone. This is a parental directive that supersedes any school authority. Junior attempted to comply, and the school prevented him from doing so, then the alleged misbehavior occurred.
The school unreasonably and deliberately provoked this young man.
To: fatnotlazy
So it's ok to teach the child that he can do whatever he wants...break any rules...it's ok.. No. That's just as stupid as teaching him to unquestioningly obey every tin-horn beaureaucrat.
The important thing is to instill a love of freedom and independent thinking.
It's not an either/or proposition.
89
posted on
05/06/2005 11:14:07 AM PDT
by
Cogadh na Sith
(Steel Bonnets Over the Border)
To: All
I just called the Muscogee County School District Super's office. They said he is getting ready to give a statement. They didn't know the particulars of the case originally. They were not informed by the Prinicipal at Spencer High that the boy was talking to his mom who was calling from Iraq. They are very upset over the actions taken at Spencer High.
Looks like a little CYA is about happen.
90
posted on
05/06/2005 11:14:19 AM PDT
by
Bella_Bru
(www.JewsforJudaism.org)
To: Navy Patriot
The kid should call a lawyer. He was assaulted by the teacher without cause.
91
posted on
05/06/2005 11:14:51 AM PDT
by
jude24
("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
To: Bella_Bru
To: Bella_Bru
And that is exactly how he should have asked. Power tripping school administrator's trump a parent's phone call from Iraq? Only in a fascist's dream world.
***
I'm not advocating rigidity in applying rules and regulations. I think if he had asked, the rules could have been bent a little for him. But that's the point: It doesn't appear that he spoke with anyone in authority to ask permission to take the call. And if he had and was refused, then yes, I would say the teacher and administration should have been given a good drubbing. But that's my point, he should have asked.
To: Mr Ramsbotham
I don't know how you worked things in your family, but my kids were told to be respectful of school authorities no matter how much they (or we) may have disagreed with them. It's part of the disciplinary process that leads to good citizenship and the ability to function successfully in the world. Kids who aren't imbued with the quality of respect generally turn into foul-mouthed, pie-throwing leftists.If I was talking to my mother on my own time, and not disturbing anyone, and a teacher pulled the phone out of my hand, that would be the last time she used that hand.
If I have to worry that everytime I talk to my mother may be the last time I ever talk to her, no teacher is going to stop me, and if they did, I wouldn't be foul mouthed or throwing pies, I'd be using a baseball bat and bashing their skull in.
The kid should have beaten his teacher senseless for her conduct.
94
posted on
05/06/2005 11:17:30 AM PDT
by
Sonny M
("oderint dum metuant")
To: fatnotlazy
I figured you would understand. Suffice it to say if my child DIDN'T resist the teacher in that situation he would be in trouble, WITH ME. I WON'T RAISE A SHEEP
95
posted on
05/06/2005 11:17:55 AM PDT
by
Nov3
("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
To: jude24
The kid should call a lawyer.Agreed.
To: fatnotlazy
I'm not advocating rigidity in applying rules and regulations. I think if he had asked If there is one thing I have learned in the Army: "It is far easier to beg forgivness than to get permission."
97
posted on
05/06/2005 11:20:27 AM PDT
by
Cogadh na Sith
(Steel Bonnets Over the Border)
To: Sterco
FR is full of them. It is a vast change from 98-99 when true conservative thinking was the norm and not actively pushed off the board.
98
posted on
05/06/2005 11:20:42 AM PDT
by
Nov3
("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
Comment #99 Removed by Moderator
To: Cogadh na Sith
The important thing is to instill a love of freedom and independent thinking.
***
Nothing wrong with that...but it seems to me that this young man wants to do whatever he wants all the time. That's not how the real world is.
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