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To: MadIvan

Dear Ivan,

It's not your fault that the Conservative party put up a loser. It looks as if Howard and Blair are both going to leave the scene. We can only hope that the Conservatives finally get their act together and find a leader with principles and conviction.

Perhaps too many Freepers confuse the English press and politicians with the English people. But if there is any possibility of keeping the Special Relationship alive, or in cold storage if necessary, we all have to work hard to do it. The E.U. will inevitably fail, and England and America will continue to be natural allies. The great majority of Freepers understand that.

It's tough times for British conservatives, but sooner or later (hopefully sooner) reality will strike, as it did when Maggie Thatcher swept into power in response to extreme hybris and unpopular strikes on the part of Labour. The Conservatives need to be ready to seize the opportunity. They have now booted it away twice, but maybe they will have learned a lesson this time. Opposing the war, playing on anti-American sentiment, and supporting the EU was stupid of Howard, who has now paid the price, but maybe they will learn yet.

Take a vacation and come back when you're in a more hopeful mood.


24 posted on 05/06/2005 6:38:18 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Opposing the war, playing on anti-American sentiment, and supporting the EU was stupid of Howard, who has now paid the price, but maybe they will learn yet.

Howard didn't oppose the Iraq war, he just criticised the way Blair presented the intelligence to justify the war at the time. Nor has Howard used anti-American sentiment, if anyone has been guilty of doing that it is the Liberal Democrat party. As for supporting the EU, that is open to debate too, since Howard was against adopting the Euro and signing the European Constitution.

34 posted on 05/06/2005 6:59:47 AM PDT by David Hunter
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To: Cicero
Opposing the war, playing on anti-American sentiment, and supporting the EU was stupid of Howard, who has now paid the price, but maybe they will learn yet.

Every statement you said there was completely wrong and in fact the opposite was true. Quite unbelievable.

36 posted on 05/06/2005 7:03:09 AM PDT by cooper72
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To: Cicero; MadIvan
Howard did not oppose the war, nor play on anti-American sentiment, and he in fact supports EU reform and lessening of its powers including the opposing the new Constitution which Blair supports.

Please get fact straight about my country before posting comments about what people are supposed to have done comments like yours I am sure have added to Mad Ivan's frustration.
74 posted on 05/06/2005 7:56:03 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME - Vote Conservative 5th May 2005)
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