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Victor Davis Hanson: Democratic Suicide
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| 5/6/2005
| Victor Davis Hanson
Posted on 05/06/2005 5:26:24 AM PDT by Tolik
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posted on
05/06/2005 7:04:12 AM PDT
by
SJackson
(The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
To: SMARTY
How is it that we are the aggressors in this and at the same time were not prepared? This is a perfectly asinine thing to propose to anyone. ONLY aggressors are prepared!!! If we were not prepared, it is because we were not and are not the aggressors in this!!! The whole terrorist agenda is a lesson, albeit a late one, that our guard had been let down and that we failed to for see the worst. Who is to blame for that 'peace has broken out' view of things?
I always find it funny that they always resort back to the "We're not focusing on finding Bin Laden", which is not only an empty view, but an insulting one. It pretty much says that our military, the one that fought a world war on two fronts, is incapable of walking and chewing bubble gum at the same time.
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posted on
05/06/2005 7:29:52 AM PDT
by
Thoro
(Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry....)
To: Tolik
43
posted on
05/06/2005 7:33:50 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
To: Tolik
Kudos to Hanson. Among the many stellar columns he has penned, this one ranks near the top.
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posted on
05/06/2005 8:00:14 AM PDT
by
beckett
To: Thoro
If we are not focusing on Bin Ladin, then why is Mushariff as goosey as a whore in church and why is Karzai so earnestly and openly committed to the US remaining in Afghanistan... even though his personal security may be secured without the broad and intense level of commitment we continuity to show there?
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posted on
05/06/2005 8:00:37 AM PDT
by
SMARTY
To: Tolik
When we see Democrats speaking and living like normal folks expressing worry that the United States must return to basic education and values to ensure its shaky preeminence in a cutthroat world, talking of one multiracial society united by a rare exceptional culture of the West rather than a salad bowl of competing races and tribes, and apprising the world that we are principled abroad in our support of democratic nations and quite dangerous when attacked they will be competitive again.Ain't gonna happen. There core of the Demodogs is comprised of those who are totally opposed to doing this. Their only chance is to fool people, and that can't be done for long enough. They're cooked.
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posted on
05/06/2005 8:20:32 AM PDT
by
AFPhys
((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
To: Tolik
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posted on
05/06/2005 8:29:25 AM PDT
by
aculeus
(Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
To: wayoverontheright; All
hey wootr (but perhaps, to the left of me??? - ;-}),
I disagree. Morbid as the next may seem, remember this fifth column ego-centric nihilist force we call the dhimmicrats bracket their oh-so-obvious lustre to the world by death coming (abortion) and going (euthanasia)... their frenzied clamor in todays agora may make for great and loud drama, but I suspect it's more akin to the sound that comes from millions of lemming-paws as they approach the cliff...
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posted on
05/06/2005 8:34:56 AM PDT
by
CGVet58
(God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
To: Tolik
When we see Democrats speaking and living like normal folks expressing worry that the United States must return to basic education and values to ensure its shaky preeminence in a cutthroat world,
As long as the RATS get all their money from Hollyweird and San Francisco liberals this will never happen. Not to say that the GOP can't screw up bigtime on the judges and SS but the culture war is waxing not waning.
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posted on
05/06/2005 9:17:52 AM PDT
by
John Lenin
(Does God scare you ?)
To: Publius6961
Ouch. Beautiful!
50
posted on
05/06/2005 9:26:08 AM PDT
by
Tolik
To: ProudGOP; AFPhys
Added to the VDH ping list. Thanks.
51
posted on
05/06/2005 9:30:53 AM PDT
by
Tolik
To: Tolik
All of this sounds right, but they came so close in the last two elections......
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posted on
05/06/2005 9:59:03 AM PDT
by
mondonico
(Peace through Superior Firepower)
To: Tolik
Great article. A lot of Democrats mourn a party that has become unrecognizable and end up voting Republican or not at all. They'll attempt one more comeback by misrepresenting an ideologue as a centrist in Hillary Clinton in 2008 - in many ways her failure would be the best thing possible to happen to the party. Her success would throw the whole thing back into the hands of political "experts" for whom the package is more important than the contents. We've had quite enough of that.
Or, if al Qaeda, operating from a sanctuary in Iran or Syria, took out the Sears Tower, how would a Kennedy, Kerry, or Gore respond? Six cruise missiles? A police matter? Proper work for the DA? Better "intelligence"? Let's work with our allies? Get the U.N. involved?
Ouch. Those are Clinton solutions and I don't just mean Bill.
Whatever we think of George Bush, we know he would do something real and just what that something might be frightens into hesitation and yes, fear many of those who would otherwise like to try something pretty awful.
It helps, too, to hound the sumbitches to the point where they're glancing over their shoulders too much to attempt anything forward-looking. Osama's urging Zarqawi to attack the U.S. is a case in point. The former is now in deep concealment and the latter chased from one safe-house to another on an hourly basis. These are no longer men likely to succeed in taking the Sears Tower down.
To: Little Ray
I'd agree it reads real well. Agreed, the Republicans need to earn it. Right now, they're not doing well at all. But, fortunately, the Demoncrats are doing MUCH worse.
Paul
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posted on
05/06/2005 10:14:44 AM PDT
by
spacewarp
(Visit the American Patriot Party and stay a while. http://www.patriotparty.us)
To: IronJack
"let's hope they don't listen"
Why would they listen .. they're too arrogant to believe we know anything.
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posted on
05/06/2005 10:37:42 AM PDT
by
CyberAnt
(President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
To: Tolik
New York Times: "There are many incompetent people in the world. But a Cornell University study has shown that most incompetent people do not know that they are incompetent.... One reason that the ignorant also tend to be the blissfully self-assured, the researchers believe, is that the skills required for competence often are the same skills necessary to recognize competence. The incompetent, therefore, suffer doubly...."
For instance, take Howell Raines and Jayson Blair, please.
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posted on
05/06/2005 10:47:48 AM PDT
by
OESY
To: SMARTY
If we are not focusing on Bin Ladin, then why is Mushariff as goosey as a whore in church and why is Karzai so earnestly and openly committed to the US remaining in Afghanistan... even though his personal security may be secured without the broad and intense level of commitment we continuity to show there?
"But those are sidetracks that are deterring us from the hunt for Bin Laden!" < /liberal rant off >
Only in the illogical mind of a liberal could the obvious be mistaken for inaction. Thank goodness the parents are in charge.
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posted on
05/06/2005 10:53:49 AM PDT
by
Thoro
(Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry....)
Comment #58 Removed by Moderator
To: Tolik
Mwanwhile, watch your back:
Quoted from TomPaine (courtesy RightWingNews.com):
As weve heard again and again recently, if we are going to beat this bunch of rule breaking GOP misanthropes, were going to have to start fighting as dirty as they do. I started this thread for one reason, to get everyones ideas on a list of things we as Democrats can consider to stop the takeover of this country. This isnt going to be a thread for the squeamish, or for the ideologically pure. Best to steer clear if that describes you.
Here are half a dozen ideas to get the ball rolling.
1) Get Republicans fired at your workplace, or fire them yourself if you can In the belief that all activism starts with the grass roots, do us all a favor, and fire your Republican employees this week. There are legitimate reasons to fire virtually any employee, so avail yourself of them. Not only will it quit the gloating youre hearing around the office, itll stop those donation checks they are getting ready to write. Might also teach them a bit of humility regarding the poor and the disadvantaged. They can be the Pioneers of Unemployment Window A
2) Pretend to be a Republican, and then cut down the next Republican that you have a conversation with. - The more public/crowed the place you do this, the better. Use whatever remarks you know are sure to make the intended impression. Youre no better than the liberal scum you claim to hate
get back into the kitchen
Just wait till we win next year and toss peons like you into the field or the workhouse
People in your income bracket dont have the right to be Republican or vote etc. If you need talking points, just observe in a Yahoo political chat room for a few minutes and you have all the right wing bile that you can use and quite possibly all that you can stand.
3) Create, plant and disseminate widely news stories that discredit GOP policies A good way to do this is to print out stories in the visual style of a major newspaper or magazine (dont use the logo or other copywrited [sic] material, however) and theme them similarly to the ones that targeted John McCains platform last presidential election. Make sure not to slander individuals directly. Leave stacks of the printouts where people are certain to find them i.e. supermarkets, coffee houses, bars, community centers etc. As in #2 make sure to write these from the right wing perspective, for maximum effect on the target audience. Avoid digital media, as its too easy to fact check, not that most GOP voters care to check these things anyway.
4) Contact the IRS and anonymously tip them off regarding prominent GOP contributors in your area. Lets face it, they are likely tax evaders in any case (thats why they are GOP), so might as well have them go thru an audit and feel a bit of what its like to have a hostile government prying into their affairs. The tax money you shake free will be a little payback to your community for the egregious tax cut they undoubtedly are enjoying.
5) Make sure that youre the only ride on voting day for a group of hard right types who live out of the way, and then dont show up. This works best in low population density areas and poor right wing communities. Cultivate a group of right wing friends and make sure they depend on you for the ride on Election Day. Then dont show up. Every vote they miss is an uncontested vote on the blue side of the aisle. The right needs a taste of Florida 2000.
6) Impersonate Linda Tripp. Whisper into the ear of GOP associates to encourage and get dirty laundry regarding their improprieties, and then make sure that information gets into the wrong hands. Its hard to brag about family values or think about politics when youre in a divorce court.
Are you really serious about winning the culture war? Do you mean it when you say its time to fight fire with fire? Then channel that anger and lets hear some ideas. Given the thin skin of most conservative ideologues, it wont take much to have them running far away from such policies and tactics so we can all enjoy proper, principled political discourse in the country again. First, however, they need to be taught that fighting dirty burns them as much as it burns anyone.
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posted on
05/06/2005 11:28:15 AM PDT
by
OESY
To: CyberAnt
they're too arrogant to believe we know anything. Perfect. That reality will dawn on them just about the time the meteor strikes and their fate is sealed.
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posted on
05/06/2005 11:34:26 AM PDT
by
IronJack
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