Posted on 05/05/2005 9:16:14 PM PDT by PerfidyWatch
Welcome to FR
You are amoung friends.
Does it really matter what happened so long ago ?
It matters for many reasons.
Historically it matters - do not allow diplomats and politicians to p*ss away hard won victories. Do not adandon allies when they are in need.
Ethically - When you make a pact, stick to it.
Also, we learned, far too late, that the MSM was manipulating facts to make it seem as though the US/RVN were losing (Cronkite and hi infamous statements about the 1968 Tet offensive) or that we were nothing but a bunch of war criminals (Kerry, Fonda, et al.).
This is just a short list.
You must be a young 'un. There are many here who not only remember Viet Nam, but also served. They were called murderers, rapists and baby killers. Lies were told about them and about the war. It's time to set the record straight! Perhaps it would do you some good to do some studying on things that happened not so long ago.
For instance, CBS's Saint Walter Cronkite could tell America that the Tet Offensive was a major U.S. military defeat, when in fact it was the NVA/VC that suffered the huge losses. The U.S. military won every battle over there, but lost the PR war at home thanks to our left-wing contingent.
And equal blame should be shared by LBJ, Robert McNamara, and other U.S. 'leaders' who were the biggest bunch of spineless jellyfish that ever thought they could micro-manage a war.
It is the past that determines the future.... the Founding Fathers created this great nation by analyzing the past!!!! The truth has got to get out, and maybe we will not sink into socialism and the other evils that has befallen much of Europe and Canada.
We won if you consider we accomplished our objectives. The real purpose of the conflict was to save Western Europe. We had to demonstrate that we were willing to take casualties in a conflict with communism to dissuade the Soviets from moving on Europe.
"Does it really matter what happened so long ago ?"
It truly does matter. Every American should be made aware our military did not win the war. The politicians did. There are so many books that have been written by military folks on how the politics, the extremely poor management of the war on the part of President Johnson, and his DoD McNamara totally screwed things up. Historical facts, are available to show battle by battle how the US forces, ground, air, and sea, repetively pushed back and battered the Vietcong and their Chinese and Russian "supervisors". If Nixon was in during the Johnson years he would have given our military the authority to destroy the North Vietcong completely.
So it is important for Americans to understand our military did not lose the war, our politicans did, with of course the help of all the anti-war (communists sponsored) organizations and their puppets like Hanoi Jane and Lt J.F. Kerry who had no right to go to Paris and interfere. He should have been by all rights, tried in a military court for the treasonous acts he performed. NO EXCUSE. He was not permitted as a United States Naval Officer to meet with and enemy we where at war with. It is that simple. He is in violation of two or more UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) articles as well as the 14 Amendment to our Constitution.
Hope this helps explain why Americans should not believe the L/MSM distortions during and up to today regarding who lost the Vietnam War. To many Americans sre to damn lazy and just don't care about seeking the truth on this issue. Well guess what. Saddam believed based on our supposed failure in NAM that we where nothing but "paper tigers", and would never attack him succesfully. So he just went on his happy way figuring America would just bomb him on occasions in the north and south no fly zones. And let him continue his dictatorship. Well this POTUS and his Father proved the theory wrong that America no longer can win wars.
I have noticed Friends/Families of veterans talk more about past wars than the vets themselves.
Thanks for sharing that. I guess it takes effort to be informed of the real reason behind things. My point was that I personally don't take the time to that with most historical issues.
Personally I think you are the rude one to insinuate that no one should care about correcting the falsehoods of Viet Nam because you don't. Many here at FR care very much. If you aren't interested, then go away.
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