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Captured Terrorists Vs. Prisoners of War - (Lee Ellis, WWII vet; retired CBS VP; straight talk)
CHRONWATCH.COM ^
| MAY 5, 2005
| LEE ELLIS
Posted on 05/05/2005 8:45:27 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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posted on
05/05/2005 8:45:29 PM PDT
by
CHARLITE
To: CHARLITE
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posted on
05/05/2005 8:51:57 PM PDT
by
No Longer Free State
(Standing in the way of progress is not a party platform)
To: No Longer Free State
I've just read a fabulous column in chronwatch.com by Bob Parks, wherein he discusses this very issue that my friend, Lee Ellis deals with.
Here is a quote from Bob Parks' CW article:
"Liberals were more than willing to forgive and forget what they would consider war crimes when John Kerry was the alleged perpetrator. Kerrys own words of his actions were considered youthful indiscretions. Now these same people have the audacity to criticize the motives of people whose job it is to make sure all the Kennedys are safe and secure. It was one thing when observing Geneva Convention rules to extract information pertinent to a war zone. But as 9/11 illustrated, terrorists will kill civilians by the thousands if left to their own devices. Being nice and respectful of the human rights of animals who would see the United States and our allies reduced to a smoldering wasteland is naïve and dangerous.
Im still waiting for the lengthy statement from Kennedy denouncing the terrorists and their penchant for torture and mass murder."
Link:http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=14371
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posted on
05/05/2005 8:58:07 PM PDT
by
CHARLITE
("People are not old, until regrets take the place of their dreams." - John Barrymore)
To: CHARLITE
If we were to Honor the wishes of the people whom desire us to treat these prisoners under the accords of the Geneva Convention. We should then have a hasty trial give them a cigarette and shoot them. As under the Accords of Geneva either Saboteur or Spy is not a recognized classification of a legal combatant.
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posted on
05/05/2005 8:58:59 PM PDT
by
Bigfitz
(The mind is like a parachute works best when open)
To: CHARLITE; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; devolve; potlatch; ntnychik; ALOHA RONNIE; ...
The Geneva Convention does not afford terrorists any special protection.
The ACLU exists to destroy America.
The senator from Massachusetts is himself a killer and ought not affect the interrogation procedure.
Captured al Qaeda such as the current number three should be housed in an isolated facility designed for extracting information.
George Orwell in 1984 had Big Brother's team placing a special cage over Winston Smith's face with a single door holding back the ravenous rat.
Perhaps a variation using a pig would be apt.
Mr. Tough Guy would suddenly become Luciano Pavrotti.
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posted on
05/05/2005 9:06:18 PM PDT
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: CHARLITE
I do not believe that the Geneva conventions have been in the end beneficial to civilization. By making war less horrid, IMO the conventions make it more likely. Think of the hypocrisy. Captured soldiers must be treated humanely while at the same time civilians are being blasted out of existence.
IMO, war should be so horrid that no nation or group would easily decide to engage. If each side knew that no prisoners would be taken, and that, in the end, the losing side should be annihilated, then there might be far less interest in going to war.
Flame away, folks.
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posted on
05/05/2005 9:07:04 PM PDT
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
(Delenda est Liberalism!)
To: PhilDragoo; CHARLITE
I realize this may be a little extreme.........
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posted on
05/05/2005 9:25:26 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it." --Robert E. Lee
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posted on
05/05/2005 9:40:35 PM PDT
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: CHARLITE
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posted on
05/05/2005 9:48:01 PM PDT
by
AZHua87
(Insurgent BloggerVet!)
To: potlatch
Mucius was taken in the act, and whilst he was under examination, a pan of fire was brought to the king, who intended to sacrifice; Mucius thrust his right hand into the flame, and whilst it burnt stood looking at Porsenna with a steadfast and undaunted countenance; Porsenna at last in admiration dismissed him, and returned his sword. . . .
That is the classic; the reality is that, faced with the burning coals, today's jihadists will emulate the Three Tenors.
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posted on
05/05/2005 9:50:45 PM PDT
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: PhilDragoo
He was therefor known as Scaevola ('left hand').
Where else could he hold that sword??
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posted on
05/05/2005 9:55:53 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: potlatch
Lefty Scaevola made an impression when George Feldman told our class about him sometime between the last dinosaur and the sinking of Atlantis.
The jihadists can never measure up.
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posted on
05/05/2005 10:11:02 PM PDT
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: PhilDragoo
LOL, Phil, you are too much!! I thought at first it was Greek tragedy, but it's Roman. I never studied that much.
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posted on
05/05/2005 10:15:39 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
To: PhilDragoo
"Mr. Tough Guy would suddenly become Luciano Pavrotti."
I've noticed that you frequently post some really funny comments! This is hilarious!
Thanks!
Char :)
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posted on
05/05/2005 10:37:06 PM PDT
by
CHARLITE
(I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; ntnychik; Smartass
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posted on
05/05/2005 10:40:33 PM PDT
by
devolve
(My WWII Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html - more traffic than DU-Koz-LDot)
To: PhilDragoo; Beth528; Billthedrill; HonestConservative; SMARTY; Ghost of Philip Marlowe; CyberAnt; ..
"The ACLU exists to destroy America."
Liberals' attitude concerning Bush's War on Terror
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posted on
05/05/2005 10:43:34 PM PDT
by
CHARLITE
(I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
To: CHARLITE
In WK2, un-uniformed resistance = shot on capture.
If the left would like to apply these rules to these conflicts that is fine by me.
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posted on
05/06/2005 1:26:01 AM PDT
by
PzGr43
To: PhilDragoo; CHARLITE
This article is right on! Thanks for the post and ping. :)I, too, would like to live with the gentility of the 30s and 40s as practiced then by most of society. Not only did we treat POWs with dignity, we also left our windows open, our front doors unlocked, our ignition keys in our cars out front, and we did not worry when our kids did not show up all day because they had gone fishing or hiking or were out bicycling. We knew they would be home safely in time for dinner.
Shoot, as a 50's - 60's child, I remember a lot of this. We lived in Fort Worth (Tx). When I came home from school Mom and Dad were both at work and we just walked into the house. The house was left unlocked all day, and Mr. and Mrs. White were right next door if we needed anything.
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posted on
05/06/2005 1:50:47 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: CHARLITE
This is an excellent article. Thanks, Lee, for your service in protecting our country and the free world from the Nazis. And thanks again for expressing the wisdom of experience.
Good tee shirt, Char. My head spins every time I see a car out here in Seattle with both "Free Tibet" and "No Iraq War" bumper stickers. Free Tibet, but not Iraq. The hypocrisy is maddening.
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posted on
05/06/2005 8:22:47 AM PDT
by
Ghost of Philip Marlowe
(Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
To: devolve
OH OH devolve, you're falling in with the Lefty Scaevola crowd too, LOL.
That is a very unique graphic!
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posted on
05/06/2005 8:25:20 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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