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1 posted on 05/05/2005 2:13:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Hitler preempted Lenin's plan by attacking the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941. The staggering defeats suffered by the Soviet army in the early stages of the war was due to the fact that Stalin had tom down many of the Soviet defense positions and had not equipped his armies facing Germany with strategic-defense plans. All of their plans were for offensive operations.

Sacking most of his experienced generals didn't help much either.

I don't know if Papa Joe was this smart - he was better at exploiting opportunity rather than creating it.

2 posted on 05/05/2005 2:15:48 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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Who started the Second World War? Well, my money is on Hillary.
3 posted on 05/05/2005 2:15:54 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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Who Started the Second World War? Liberal appeasement. Something that everyone knows doesn`t work except for liberals.


4 posted on 05/05/2005 2:16:13 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver (ALL YOU BASE ARE BELONG TO US)
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Who started the Second World War?

Japan's invasion of China in 1931 is as good a guess as any.

5 posted on 05/05/2005 2:19:11 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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Ok, I did it, really.


6 posted on 05/05/2005 2:20:32 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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I would have thought that WWII began when Germany invaded Czechoslovakia on March 15, 1939. Certainly in hindsight it is apparent that Hitler had no intention of stopping there. Especially considering what he had done in Austria one year earlier.


10 posted on 05/05/2005 2:21:56 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (This tagline will be destoyed to make way for a new Hyperspace bypass.)
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Stalin (communist), Hitler (National Socialist) and Chamberlain (liberal appeaser), started WWII.
15 posted on 05/05/2005 2:28:15 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (George Orwell was the first Neocon!)
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The second World War was a continuation of WW I. As the French undertook to starve the German population (several thousands died) that allowed the NAZI to take over.

The answer is the FRENCH started WW II.

I have always wondered why the UK and France declared war on Germany for the invasion of Poland and did not declare war on the USSR when they were in league with the Nazi and also invaded and murdered in Poland.
17 posted on 05/05/2005 2:28:46 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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Chemberlain and Deladie by signing Munich pact.

Resyn is just simple revisionist.


19 posted on 05/05/2005 2:29:41 PM PDT by RusIvan
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More pro-commie baloney!


22 posted on 05/05/2005 2:31:54 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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"Who Started the Second World War?"


Bush??


31 posted on 05/05/2005 2:37:21 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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Congress of Vienna 1841
44 posted on 05/05/2005 2:48:04 PM PDT by dts32041 (Two words that shouldn't be used in the same sentence Grizzly bear and violate.)
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Who Started the Second World War?

Please add this observation to the title question's responses.

The WW1 conditions of surrender are what caused WW2. Therefore, several versions of who started WW2 would exist; none would prevail.

52 posted on 05/05/2005 3:05:41 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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Who started WWII? That would be the French at Versailles, enabled by the US and Britain who buckled and allowed France to drive postwar Germany into the ground, where it became ripe for Hitler.


55 posted on 05/05/2005 3:10:17 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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Imperial Japan.

There was a Pacific Theatre too, ya know.


59 posted on 05/05/2005 3:19:30 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP ("The Republican Party is the France of politics" - Laz)
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Hey at least he got the Spitfire into production..

61 posted on 05/05/2005 3:20:31 PM PDT by wolficatZ ( + ><))))*> + "..gone fishing...")
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Who started the Second World War? I think it was that one guy....you know...cant remember his name....


63 posted on 05/05/2005 3:27:52 PM PDT by isom35
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RE: Suvorov also convincingly demonstrates that Stalin was not developing defensive forces along the new Soviet border with Germany, but rather as building up a vast and powerful offensive military force.

A much overlooked source of corroboration of this claim are the memoirs of Hans Ulrich Rudel, a Luftwaffe officer who led some daring recon flights over the USSR at the outset of Barbarossa. The patterns of men, material and fortification that he observed, photographed and documented made it clear that Stalin had been preparing an offensive of unprceedented magnitude, completely dwarfing Barbarossa itself. Had Hitler not decided to stab Stalin in the back the USSR likely would have burst forth in parallel surges, one along the Danube and the other along the general Moscow - Berlin alignment. The plan would have been to use the Danube surge to cut the Nazi Empire in half - isolating Bavaria, Austria, Italy and the Balkans from the most of Germany. The northern surge, of course, would have seized Berlin. From there, with no other force to stop them, the Soviets would have faced the UK from across the Channel within days, meanwhile, other Red Army contingents would have repeated Hitler's victory jig in Paris and sipped espresso along the Riviera. The time frame for the Soviet attack was likely somewhere between mid 1941 and mid 1942.


67 posted on 05/05/2005 4:01:41 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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It's Bush's fault.


69 posted on 05/05/2005 4:18:58 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Ah, spring! Such as it is.)
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Who Started the Second World War?

The League of Nations?

71 posted on 05/05/2005 4:27:17 PM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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