Posted on 05/05/2005 2:13:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
That started The War To End All Wars. It had an "official" ending on 11:11 11/11/1911 (as is shown by seismic records.)
More pro-commie baloney!
You know, they hammered the "treaty of versailles sowed the seeds of ww2" into our heads throughout middle school, high school, and college.
A few years ago I really started thinking about it . . . it really starts to come off as a "its really our fault that Hitler and the German people started the war . . .we were mean to them." Then I started thinking about the people who said, "its really our fault the hijackers flew those planes into the buildings . . .we were mean to them"
Silly Dentist!! Bush started it! ;)
I agree that it was the French insistence on inflicting massive debt and other penalties on a fledgling representative government that gave Hitler a chance to rise to power.
The US, its evil and scary.
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Bingo!
Pat Buchanan has said it. But I agree with you.
That certainly got the ball rolling. Not to mention Italy's occupation of Ethopia in 1936.
Didn't just sack them. He killed them. Apparently a German spy convinced him almost his entire officer corps was in league with the capitalists. So in 38 he killed just about every officer above the rank of major. NOT a good idea when planning an offensive war.
"Who Started the Second World War?"
Bush??
Heh, and Clinton "officially" did NOT have sexual relations with that woman!
(Of course, that depends on what your definition of "is" is.)
1936 - When the French didn't resist the Nazi march into the Rhineland. Hitler gave orders for the Germans to retreat if so much as one shot went off on the French side. Obviously they never did, and from that point on, Hitler, as he said after Munich, knew his enemies were but "little worms."
Lol, which one again?
A factor, to be sure. But you also could list these things as equal factors:
- The Russian Revolution (Hitler got a lot of support out of fear of Bolshevism)
- The Great Depression (Germany suffered greatly under it, which helped Hitler to rise to power)
"What ever you do, don't mention the war!"
The "we were mean to them" answer is at least partly true. Among other things, it provided some ready-made grievances and problems that made militarism attractive, and it prompted the Weimar government to initiate hyperinflation to pay off the reparations.
Moreover, although the treaty was tough, it depended on the political will of (especially) the French -- which was of course non-existent.
Also, however, the Germans were not defeated in WWI the way they were in WWII. The lack of damage to the homeland allowed the militarists (who were not punished) to formulate the "stabbed in the back" excuse.
At the same time, we cannot forget the commies, who were actively trying to foment revolution in Germany, which gave traction to the various "marching societies," of which the Nazis were one.
Considering fear of Bolshevism also caused fascist dictatorships to spring up in Italy and Spain among other places let's put the blame on Czar Nicholas II then for ignoring the warning signs! That Dummy should have listened to the Duma. :-)
I think you got it. World War II started with the conditions that gave rise to Hitler. Both France and England were determined that Germany would not rise to compete again. Plus the thrust of Communism into Germany and Spain produced a Hitler response.
Wars are never won until you win the peace. e.g. the American leadership after WW II which overcame Britain, France plus Communist influence in our own administration who wanted to agrarianize Germany.
Who Started the Second World War?
I don't know about that, but one of Bill's generals wanted to start WWIII in Kosovo. I think it was his room mate at that English school.
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