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Very accurate and thorough overview of the World War II and its outcomes.
1 posted on 05/05/2005 10:23:41 AM PDT by sergey1973
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PING !


2 posted on 05/05/2005 10:29:37 AM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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From the Ribbontrop-Molotov Pact to Operation Barbarossa Stalin was completly indifferent to the fate of Great Britain who was fighting all alone.

After June 22 the British commies went from somabulent to frenetic demanding a 2nd Front NOW!

3 posted on 05/05/2005 10:33:49 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (-)
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Patton was right....we should have just kept rolling over those bolshevik b*stards!


4 posted on 05/05/2005 10:35:35 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An Armed Society is a Polite Society" Heinlein)
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France in 1939-40

French forces fought throughout the Italian campeign until 1944 and their diversion to Anvil which was renamed Dragoon.

German forces included allies: Italy, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, Croatia, Slovania, Slovakia, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Finland. SS (loyal to Hitler period) had units composed of all of the above, plus: Albanians, Bosnians, French, British, Belgian (per capita more then even Germans), Dutch, Ukranians and Greeks.

5 posted on 05/05/2005 10:37:48 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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Very interesting article...

At least the US caught on by 1948. Who knows what the world would be like if we didn't?


6 posted on 05/05/2005 10:38:20 AM PDT by TFine80
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but only the fringes of Russia. They approached the outskirts of Moscow, Leningrad and Stalingrad but never secured a main Russian city.

Reaching Moscow is hardly a fringe of Russia. Further, Kharkov and Lughansk were both Russian built cities, as was all of the Crimea. Belograd, Pskov are also major cities, were taken. Stalingrad was not a major city, it became a major focal point. This guy needs to get some geography lessons.

8 posted on 05/05/2005 10:41:20 AM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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Look this pictiure. It is the best answer to history revisionists of today.
14 posted on 05/05/2005 10:58:56 AM PDT by RusIvan
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So historians have a problem. Somehow they must find a way of describing a complicated war in which the combined forces of western democracy and Stalinist tyranny triumphed over the Axis. They must give pride of place to the role which the Soviet Union played in the military defeat of Germany, just as the US shouldered the main burden of the war against Japan. ==

Exactly. We can explain what heppened as uneasy allience. But anyway what done is for good.


15 posted on 05/05/2005 11:01:12 AM PDT by RusIvan
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The brits usually manage to leave the US out of WW2, also.


26 posted on 05/05/2005 11:55:41 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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I recall something James Michener wrote about the 20th Anniversary of D-Day. It seems the French had commissioned a "commemorative" stamp which depicted the heroic French Commandos coming ashore at Normandy with a large Frog flag. Somewhere in the distance you could make out British and American flags. I know that the Russians, that is the Russians + the other captive nations that made up the former USSR, made the greatest human sacrifice of any Allied nation in WWII, but it is also true that in large measure their sacrifice was due as much to the self-delusional paranoia of their ruthless Communist dictator, as it was to German action. Whether the Russians could have/would have stood alone against Nazi Germany, as Britain did, or whether the Russians could ever have achieved victory without the material support the US provided, is definitely an open question, at least.


38 posted on 05/05/2005 1:13:02 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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Excellent article, Norman Davies as always lecturing the westerners :)

And the European parliament, when recently asked to grant a minute’s silence in honour of 22,000 allied officers shot by the NKVD (the communist secret police), refused.

and of course socialist has nothing to do with communists /sarcasm

“alternative forms of democracy”.

they were served heavy stuff in those days!
44 posted on 05/06/2005 5:25:53 AM PDT by Lukasz
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"And it (the Soviet Union) was ruled by a Georgian tyrant who entered the war against the Reich only when attacked himself."

Bovine scat.

The USSR entered the war with the signing of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact and the dissection of Poland. They initially entered as allies of Hitler. This must not be forgotten.


46 posted on 05/06/2005 5:34:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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Interesting article.

I differ with the conclusions that the author draws about the abilities of the Soviet armies. The sheer numbers of casualties they inflicted on the Germans does not clearly indicate their prowess on the battlefield.

History has shown that Stalin would send unarmed prisoners into battle ahead of the troops to "soak up" mines, rifle fire and other means of German efforts. That is not prowess, that is butchery.

We should recognize it for what it is.


50 posted on 05/06/2005 6:35:20 AM PDT by Bryan24
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BTTT for later, more thorough read.


55 posted on 05/06/2005 2:11:20 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP ("The Republican Party is the France of politics" - Laz)
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