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GOPers have lots of ammo to fire in ethics ‘war’ Dems started (Big Media overlooks RAT felonies)
Jewish World Review ^ | 5/05/05 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 05/05/2005 4:30:58 AM PDT by Libloather

GOPers have lots of ammo to fire in ethics ‘war’ Dems started
By Jack Kelly
Jewish World Review May 5, 2005
http://www.JewishWorldReview.com

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, Democrats in Congress are beginning to find out.

Rep. Norman Dicks (D-Wash) has reimbursed the Spectrum Group, a defense lobbying firm, $571 for food and lodging in Fort Lauderdale in February, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported Tuesday. It is against House rules for a lawmaker or staffer to accept gratuities from lobbyists, though non-profit groups may pay for their travel expenses.

The AP reported the same day that expenses for a trip Reps. James Clyburn (D-SC) and Bennie Thompson (D-Miss) took to the Northern Mariana islands in 1996 were paid by Jack Abramoff, a lobbyist currently under criminal investigation.

The Washington Times reported April 20th a lobbying firm paid the $3,336 tab for a trip Rep. Stephanie Tubbs (D-OH) and her husband took to Puerto Rico in 2001.

Dozens of congressmen of both parties are rushing to amend their travel and campaign records, the Washington Post reported April 26th.

This is fallout from the effort by Democrats and their allies in the news media to paint House Majority Leader Tom Delay (R-Tex) as "corrupt."

**SNIP**

Meanwhile, journalists overlook evidence of actual felonies...if they've been committed by Democrats.

You haven't read much about it, but David Rosen, finance chief for the campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), will go on trial soon for collecting a massive amount of campaign contributions he knew were illegal.

It's possible Clinton didn't know about the illegal activities Rosen undertook on her behalf. It's possible I'll win the lottery. But that's not the way to bet.

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ammo; delay; dems; ethics; fire; gopers; lots; rats; started; ushouse; war
JWR contributor Jack Kelly, a former Marine and Green Beret, was a deputy assistant secretary of the Air Force in the Reagan administration.
1 posted on 05/05/2005 4:30:58 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

If a RAT commits a felony in a forest, and all the little media birds in the trees look the other way, is there any crime?


2 posted on 05/05/2005 4:34:47 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: MurryMom; doug from upland; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog; Mudboy Slim
You haven't read much about it, but David Rosen, finance chief for the campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), will go on trial soon for collecting a massive amount of campaign contributions he knew were illegal.

Yet my local newscast gives me daily updates on the American Idol nonsense. Amazing...

3 posted on 05/05/2005 4:35:07 AM PDT by Libloather (Start Hillary's recount now - just to get it out of the way...)
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To: samtheman

There is no doubt that if DeLay goes down over these ethics issues then Pelosi is going down as well. And before the dust settles there were be any number of Congressmen on both sides of the aisle that will get caught up in this. But hey, that's what the Democrats wanted.


4 posted on 05/05/2005 4:36:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Libloather
Somewhere in a smoky backroom, a Clintanoid consultant approved of the Dem strategy of attacking DeLay on practices that are widespread and ethical, but that have a poor appearance. Sure there is backlash, sure there is hypocrisy, sure some Dems may even get a little taint on them. But this smells like the Clintanoid initial spin tactic. It is the initial spin that holds the most sway.
5 posted on 05/05/2005 4:48:57 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Non-Sequitur
There is no doubt that if DeLay goes down over these ethics issues then Pelosi is going down as well. And before the dust settles there were be any number of Congressmen on both sides of the aisle that will get caught up in this. But hey, that's what the Democrats wanted.
No doubt? I seriously doubt. I have lots of doubt.

While the RATS are playing the part of Alan Rickman as Hans Gruber in Die Hard the Republican Senate is playing the part of Dustin Hoffman as Raymond Babbitt in Rain Man.

On the one hand you've got the RATS: do anything, say anything, tell any lie, trample any principle, sell any number of Americans down the river to get what they want.

On the other hand you've got the Senate Republicans: a bunch of spineless, directionless, mental defectives, who never miss an opportunity to cave on an important issue.

Doubts? Oh yes. I have doubts. Plenty of them.

6 posted on 05/05/2005 4:49:32 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Non-Sequitur
Correction: House and Senate Republicans.

On the ethics rules, it was the House Republicans who caved. I'm just used to seeing the Senate Republicans cave, hence the typo.

7 posted on 05/05/2005 4:51:46 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Libloather

Why exactly is the GOP holding back?


8 posted on 05/05/2005 5:13:29 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Wy are the Republicnas holding back. That ones easy. No balls.


9 posted on 05/05/2005 5:22:03 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: samtheman

"On the one hand you've got the RATS: do anything, say anything, tell any lie, trample any principle, sell any number of Americans down the river to get what they want."

You are forgetting one thing. Since 1994 and with more internet access, this isn't working for the RATS. The more they do this the more votes they lose.


10 posted on 05/05/2005 5:40:37 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: Non-Sequitur
"And before the dust settles there were be any number of Congressmen on both sides of the aisle that will get caught up in this. But hey, that's what the Democrats wanted."

Hopefully that's what America wants. I don't have a problem with dirty politicians (from either side) getting exposed. Hopefully this exposure will serve as a deterrent. We send these people to Washington to represent our interests not to line their pockets. Throw the crooks in jail!

11 posted on 05/05/2005 6:18:19 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: blaquebyrd
Hopefully that's what America wants. I don't have a problem with dirty politicians (from either side) getting exposed.

Exactly - hence my tagline. The Democrats took the dark path years ago by putting party loyalty over their duties as Americans. We can never allow ourselves to go down that road.

I don't have a duty as a Republican - I have a duty as an American. We can never put our party above our Nation.

12 posted on 05/05/2005 6:22:59 AM PDT by Terabitten (I have a duty as an AMERICAN, not a Republican. We can never put Party above Nation.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The internet is over-rated. It didn't help Arnold. In CA the MSM has successfully cast him as a bigot because he wants to enforce border rules.


13 posted on 05/05/2005 6:28:46 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman; All

The House Repubs didn't CAVE - what they did was calculate and figure out that it was better to go back to the old rules - SO THEY COULD CLEAR DeLAY's NAME - THAN IT WAS TO PUSH FOR THE NEW RULES AND CONTINUE TO GIVE THE DEMOCRATS AN ISSUE.

BESIDES .. NOW THE DEMOCRATS CAN ALSO BE CHARGED .. THOSE WHO COMMITTED THE SAME ACTS AS DeLAY .. and the ethics committee can take up the issue of McDermott - who has alredy been convicted in a court - and needs to be removed from the House.

This was a planned "cave" - and I believe it was the correct one - it allowed the dems to falsely believe the House repubs were weak - so the House repubs will be misunderestimated AGAIN. Perfect!!


14 posted on 05/05/2005 8:15:33 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CyberAnt

I hope you are right. I hope my skepticism turns out to be completely misplaced. Maybe I am tarring the House Repubs with the same brush that the Repub Senators deserve.

Unless you see some kind of heroic behavior in the Senate Repubs that I don't see.


15 posted on 05/05/2005 8:26:37 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Libloather
I really like what Jay Severin had to say about this witch hunt:

Republican strategist and radio talk show host Jay Severin gives Imus his opinion about the controversy surrounding House Majority Leader Tom DeLay.

Jay Severin: "The thing with Tom DeLay is, so far as this inquiry or this inquisition represents an effort to establish and enforce one standard of ethics, fine. But the problems is, the media coverage so far so grotesquely biased, that almost everyone thinks Tom DeLay is the only one, or the worst one. As a matter of fact, and on the record, 50 current, 5-0, 50 current Democrat members of the House, that's about 1 out of every 5 of them, are on record as having already done what DeLay is just accused of doing, which is putting family on the campaign payroll and taking lobbyist trips.

Now I, if this is indeed a serious ethics breach, lets get ready to punish DeLay and all 50 Democrats, plus, the news that you don't know, is that the chief DeLay persecutors, like Senator Barbara Boxer, she put her son on her campaign payroll, re-wrote a law for an Indian casino which then paid the same son a huge consulting fee. Nancy Pelosi, or as she is known to me as Bella Pelosi, she wants to suck your wallet, was found guilty of funneling more than 100 thousand dollars to other Democrats, who then voted to make her Democrat leader. She's already paid tens of thousand dollars of fines. We haven't heard this anywhere.

And ladies and gentleman, your ethics anti-Christ champion, Democrat Senate Minority leader, Harry Reid. This is the guy who introduced the law on the pre-text that it was environmental law. It turned over hundreds of acres of protected federal land to real estate developers who then paid his four sons hundreds of thousands of dollars in consulting fees. So far the Reid family, has according to an L.A. Times story two years ago, the Reid family then, as of two years ago, had been paid two million dollars in cash, in consulting fees because of lobbying their father. So ok, if it's DeLay, fine. But let's look at everybody, shall we

16 posted on 05/05/2005 8:46:15 AM PDT by Mase
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To: Thud

ping


17 posted on 05/05/2005 9:21:14 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Libloather
It should be noted that Stubbs-Jones is actually on the ethics committee.
18 posted on 05/05/2005 9:26:50 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "You are hilarious!" -- Dashing Dasher; "Very well put, AD. As usual."--Howlin)
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To: samtheman

Well .. since you're not a part of the private senate repub meetings .. you're really strething the truth by saying the senate repubs "deserve" anything.

There's a time to be angry about stuff - and there's a time to just sit back and allow things to work. Remember - this is not instant soup - this is govt and it just takes time to get things done.

However - the senate and house Repubs have done a great deed today - they have OFFICIALLY REMOVED the Kerry/Dorgan amendment SA-399 which Dorgan had attached to the House Appropriations bill #HR-1268.

This SA-399 was written to stop the funding for the report on the Cisneros investigation - WHY? - because there are 10-11 former Clinton admin people who are going to be in real trouble [and that according to Tony Snow who has seen some of the information in the report].

So .. while you're bad-mouthing all repubs - they're busy keeping the dems from hiding this report.


19 posted on 05/05/2005 10:45:17 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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