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Brain-Injured Fireman's Recovery Takes Science Into a Murky Area
NY Times ^ | May 4, 2005 | ANAHAD O'CONNOR

Posted on 05/04/2005 6:23:04 PM PDT by neverdem

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Associated Press
Donald Herbert, a firefighter with brain damage from a 1995 fire.

1 posted on 05/04/2005 6:23:05 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


2 posted on 05/04/2005 6:25:45 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; floriduh voter; neverdem

ping


3 posted on 05/04/2005 6:26:02 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: neverdem
It's a good thing God had nothing to do with this.

Think what the ramifications would be!

Whew!

LVM

4 posted on 05/04/2005 6:27:12 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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To: neverdem

I wonder what Judge Greer thinks.


5 posted on 05/04/2005 6:27:49 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: neverdem

It is a shame he is to be denied the euphoric experience of being starved to death. If only he received the proper care! He could be so much more peaceful and radiant!


6 posted on 05/04/2005 6:28:01 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Calpernia

Good thing Felos wasn't hanging around his neighborhood, huh?


7 posted on 05/04/2005 6:29:07 PM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: neverdem

"Murky Area" = Faith


9 posted on 05/04/2005 6:30:10 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mlc9852
I wonder what Judge Greer thinks.

I would like to email this story to him.

10 posted on 05/04/2005 6:31:22 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

God bless him.

If only Terri had been so lucky. :(


11 posted on 05/04/2005 6:32:00 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: DoctorMichael

"'Murky Area' = Faith"

Murky area = place where scientific research has yet to penetrate

The lack of a naturalistic explanation does not mean you should jump for a supernatural fairy-tale explanation.


12 posted on 05/04/2005 6:34:31 PM PDT by New Orleans Slim
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To: New Orleans Slim

Why are you looking for a fight? And why do you care?


13 posted on 05/04/2005 6:39:14 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: neverdem

BUMP


14 posted on 05/04/2005 6:49:28 PM PDT by kitkat (!)
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To: neverdem

" This is a phenomenon that is being frequently reported," said Dr. Joseph Fins, chief of the medical ethics division at NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell hospital and an expert on the subject.
"It may be just the tip of the iceberg,...."

IIRC- Dr Fins supported Michael Schiavo.


15 posted on 05/04/2005 6:50:54 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: bethelgrad; neverdem
An alternate, secular definition of a "Scientific Murky Area":

mer·cy   Audio pronunciation of "mercy" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (mûrs)
n. pl. mer·cies

  1. Compassionate treatment, especially of those under one's power; clemency.
  2. A disposition to be kind and forgiving: a heart full of mercy.
  3. Something for which to be thankful; a blessing: It was a mercy that no one was hurt.
  4. Alleviation of distress; relief: Taking in the refugees was an act of mercy.

I'm partial to Def. #1 myself.
16 posted on 05/04/2005 7:12:44 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: neverdem
He was largely unresponsive, but could track objects with his eyes

If the reporter had followed the Terri Schiavo case, he/she would recognize that as nothing more than an involuntary reflex, and no indication that he will ever recover.

17 posted on 05/04/2005 7:28:50 PM PDT by ordinaryguy
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See BS news, in Chicago, keeps on announcing how a brain DEAD man wakes up after 10 years.

Simple linguistic slip up?

I don't think so.

18 posted on 05/04/2005 7:40:17 PM PDT by mountn man
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To: GatorGirl

LOL!

How are you?


19 posted on 05/04/2005 7:53:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: neverdem

Tis time to start the Terri Schiavo murder investigation.


20 posted on 05/04/2005 8:07:31 PM PDT by dr huer
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