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To: metacognative; js1138
[But no one claims evolution happens by mere chance.]

I'm trying to be patient here...but if not chance, then what mind is directing away from random?

ROFL! Is it truly your contention that the only possible force in the Universe which can produce non-randomness is "mind"? That's really funny.

Hint: When salt crystallizes, does it line up in neat rows from random dissolved molecules due to the action of some "mind" -- or because of the interaction of the natural properties of atoms and chemistry?

Hint: When raindrops fall all in one direction (i.e. "down") instead of moving in all random directions, is it due to the work of a "mind" -- or due to the natural properties of matter and gravity?

There are countless ways in which natural processes induce non-randomness. "Mind" is not the only thing capable of that. Heck, given some of the posts here, the results of some alleged "minds" are sometimes more chaotic and random than not...

525 posted on 05/05/2005 3:21:35 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

It is useless to discuss science with True Believer Darwinites who will not see the difference between a lawlike crystal and a non-lawlike cell.
And you Ardemt Evolution Devotees should quit trying to tell me that shining energy on something makes it organize and complexify. Energy, unguided, DEstructs, not Constructs


528 posted on 05/05/2005 4:40:47 PM PDT by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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To: Ichneumon

It is useless to discuss science with True Believer Darwinites who will not see the difference between a lawlike crystal and a non-lawlike cell.
And you Ardemt Evolution Devotees should quit trying to tell me that shining energy on something makes it organize and complexify. Energy, unguided, DEstructs, not Constructs


529 posted on 05/05/2005 4:41:22 PM PDT by metacognative (eschew obfuscation)
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