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Navy Probes Religious Discrimination
Military.com ^ | May 2, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/04/2005 8:02:17 AM PDT by Nice50BMG

Navy Probes Religious Discrimination
Associated Press
May 2, 2005

WASHINGTON - The Navy is investigating a chaplain's allegations he was punished for theological disagreements with superior officers, including his objections to requiring sailors to participate in services at a church that accepts homosexuality.

Lt. Gordon Klingenschmitt says he was transferred ashore and given a negative job recommendation because of the religious disagreements.

Other actions cited in Klingenschmitt's personnel records include his advocacy for a Jewish sailor who wanted kosher meals and his preaching of sermons that some sailors viewed as proselytizing and intolerant.

"I'm shocked that senior chaplains would force their faith on sailors and on me," said Klingenschmitt, who was chaplain on the cruiser USS Anzio, based in Norfolk, Va.

The Navy began an inspector general investigation Wednesday into Klingenschmitt's allegations, said Lt. Cmdr. Charles Owens, a spokesman for Naval Surface Forces Atlantic.

"Anything he's alleged will be investigated," Owens said Thursday. "If there's any substance to it, the legal process will take its course."

Klingenschmitt became a priest in the Evangelical Episcopal Church after spending 11 years as an Air Force officer. He said he transferred to the Navy and took a demotion from major to lieutenant to become a military chaplain.

Other evangelical Protestant chaplains in the Navy have complained about religious discrimination. A group of evangelical chaplains is suing the Navy in federal court, saying they were passed over for promotions in favor of Roman Catholic or mainline Protestant chaplains and punished when they complained.

One of Klingenschmitt's run-ins with his commanders came in May 2004 during the Navy's annual Fleet Week celebrations in New York, when the city holds various events to honor sailors.

Klingenschmitt objected to having Navy personnel attend Fleet Week church services at the Marble Collegiate Church, which has an outreach ministry to gays and lesbians. The church has hosted Fleet Week services for years.

In an e-mail to senior chaplains, Klingenschmitt said the Marble Church "endorses homosexual sin." He said it was improper for the Navy to have sailors attend the church because homosexual acts are crimes under military law and two sailors recently had been discharged for homosexual acts while at sea.

Days later, a senior chaplain wrote to all chaplains and executive officers in the Anzio's group saying that "each ship is expected to provide bodies to this service" at the Marble Church. Klingenschmitt said he complied, finding 20 sailors to attend the service.

A July 2004 "letter of instruction" to the chaplain from the Anzio's commander, Capt. Jim Carr, took Klingenschmitt to task for the Fleet Week incident.

"You distributed an e-mail of protestation, alleging certain unacceptable beliefs in the Marble Church that created a great deal of concern among Navy and New York City leadership," Carr wrote. "This (incorrectly and improperly) created an impression in the highest levels of the U.S. Navy that Anzio and our Religious Ministries program were in contention with Navy policy to support Fleet Week obligations."

Officials from Marble Collegiate Church did not return repeated telephone and e-mails on Friday.

The church's Web site says Marble Collegiate "provides dynamic, positive spiritual direction to a diverse and embracing congregation." A mission statement describes "an inclusive community."

A message on the site from the senior minister at the church, Rev. Arthur Caliandro, says "all the world's great religions have the same social values at their cores: love for one another, help for the poor and disadvantaged, honor in personal behavior, and justice for all."

The Anzio's executive officer, Lt. Cmdr. Tom Williams, referred a reporter's questions to Owens, the Naval Surface Forces Atlantic spokesman. Owens said he could not provide any details on the Fleet Week incident.

Klingenschmitt said he also had to push for the Anzio to provide kosher meals for an Orthodox Jewish sailor. The Navy provides kosher meals for its Jewish members, but smaller ships such as the Anzio often must specially order such meals.

Klingenschmitt said the Anzio did provide kosher meals but did not stock enough kosher rations for the sailor, who lost 17 pounds on a tour at sea.

Carr's letter also mentioned that incident, saying Klingenschmitt "misrepresented the Command concern for this issue."

"The issue was easily resolved once the Commanding Officer became involved, but only after senior leadership in the Navy Chaplain Corps gained an (incorrect and unwarranted) impression of unrest or dissatisfaction within Anzio concerning the issue," Carr wrote.

In March, Carr wrote to Navy Personnel Command recommending against extending Klingenschmitt's tour of active duty.

"He has demonstrated recurring confusion concerning a chaplain's role within a military organization," Carr wrote.

Klingenschmitt, Carr added, "has been cautioned in this regard by his Commanding Officer and the Force Chaplain, but thus far has not made appreciable progress toward change."

Klingenschmitt said he is waiting for the Navy's final decision on whether he will continue on active duty.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chaplain; homosexualagenda; klingenschmitt; moralabsolutes; navy
Guilty of being anti-gay in the Navy! (The world is officially turned upside-down).
1 posted on 05/04/2005 8:02:20 AM PDT by Nice50BMG
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To: Nice50BMG

You gotta tow the party line or find someplace else to
preach...

It aint your daddy's Navy anymore...


2 posted on 05/04/2005 8:26:00 AM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: Nice50BMG

Odds are that the USS Anzio has a single chaplain aboard. That's a tough job, and requires the chaplain to minister to a wide variety of folks.

Sounds like he's trying, given the story of his attempt to get adequate kosher meals for one man. But...it's a difficult job, and it isn't always done well.

I was stationed at a small base in Turkey while in the USAF. We had one chaplain, a Southern Baptist. He spent his entire time on that base trying to convert everyone to his particular sect of Christianity. Catholics, Jews...everyone. It was frustrating for many people there, who belonged to other denominations.

Finally, he told a Jewish Sergeant that he was going to Hell unless he accepted Christ. That was a mistake. Turns out that the Sergeant's father was a Congressman.

That chaplain was outa there in about a week. Last I heard, he was up on charges and about to be discharged under less than honorable terms.

For me, Father Mulcahey on M*A*S*H was the best model I've seen of a military chaplain. Not a lot like him out there.


3 posted on 05/04/2005 8:40:30 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: joesnuffy

Well, at least we still have the rum.


4 posted on 05/04/2005 8:41:09 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: Nice50BMG; 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A Jovial Cad; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; adam_az; af_vet_rr; ...
his advocacy for a Jewish sailor who wanted kosher meals

And he's accused of "intolerance"?

BTW my dad is a WW2 Navy vet.

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5 posted on 05/04/2005 8:45:04 AM PDT by Alouette (Proudly overpopulating the planet since 1972.)
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To: Nice50BMG
Many "Army brats" and their counterparts in other services attended generic services and Sunday school programs called "Army Protestant." Before World War II, there was something of a generically Christian flavor to much of American civil and social life. Many schools had Bible readings from the King James Bible, which was almost universally used by non-Protestant Christians before 1950. Nativity scenes in courthouse squares and city halls were very common, even in the windows of department stores. Church attendance was the norm, with skeptics often attending Sunday services for appearance sakes. Even large cities like New York and Chicago closed their stores and businesses on Sundays.

The breakdown of anything like common ground among Protestants has been ongoing since the early 20th Century. The mainline and evangelical wings of Protestantism operate as separately from each other as they do with respect to Eastern Orthodoxy. The de-Christianization of American culture has been in full force since 1960. The word "Christmas" is now all but gone from advertising and commerce; Nativity scenes are now confined to the lawns and parking lots of churches.

America is increasingly a nation lacking common ground in values and norms. The prevalent culture promotes secular humanism and moral relativism and its offspring, such as multiculturalism, sexual license, political correctness, and so forth. So prevalent have these views become that it has infected even those who consider themselves conservatives. Observe the FReepers who were more concerned with "due process of law" than with justice in the case of Terri Schiavo and who regard people who did not find Laura Bush's off-color jokes amusing as prudes or worse. No society will function apart from a code of morality that clearly defines right and wrong.

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" (Isaiah 5:20)

6 posted on 05/04/2005 9:21:51 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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7 posted on 05/04/2005 10:54:21 AM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: Nice50BMG
Here's another story. This one says that officials at the AF Academy are too evangelical, also. It could be a trend.
8 posted on 05/04/2005 10:57:29 AM PDT by rabidralph (My truck appreciates the rest of you driving fuel-efficient vehicles.)
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To: joesnuffy
You gotta tow the party line or find someplace else to preach...

I read it a little differently. For at least one of the incidents (the kosher meals) he went outside the chain of command and embarrased his Captain. Not a good thing for your career.

I'd guess that he circumvented chain of command frequently. That will surely get you all the wrong kind of attention

9 posted on 05/04/2005 11:00:14 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: rabidralph; All

Yeah I hear this on ABC news Saturday what I understand that some of Jewish Air Force cadets was being hassle and some Anti Semtic by leading member of Air Force academy that big NO NO


10 posted on 05/04/2005 2:37:22 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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