Pat Robertson:No Muslim judges

World Net Daily ^ | May 3, 2005 | World Net Daily

[26lemoncharlie]

Islamic leaders demand apology for 'hate-filled remarks'

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Evangelist Pat Robertson is in trouble with U.S. Islamic organizations for saying Muslims should not serve in the president's Cabinet or as judges.

Pat Robertson

In an appearance on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Sunday, Robertson, who ran for president in 1988, said if were elected he would not appoint Muslims to his Cabinet and that he was not in favor of Muslims serving as judges.

"They have said in the Quran there's a war against all the infidels," Robertson said. "Do you want somebody like that sitting as a judge? I wouldn't."

The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations yesterday called on "mainstream political and religious leaders" to repudiate the "hate-filled remarks."

"This type of hate-filled rhetoric deserves repudiation from all who respect America's long-standing tradition of pluralism," said Rabiah Ahmed, CAIR's communication coordinator.

Ahmed said many Muslims already serve with distinction in many levels of government, including judgeships at the state and local level.

Arsalan Iftikhar, CAIR's national legal director, said Robertson "has taken his far-right-wing rhetoric to absurd levels."

"He is trying to perpetuate this notion that Islam is a monolithic entity inherently at odds with modernity and democracy," Iftikhar said. "That is absolutely false. ... American Muslims have long been contributing members of American society.

Iftikhar added: "And I guarantee to Mr. Robertson that Muslims will one day become part of the federal bench -- whether or not he likes it."

Muslims were particularly outraged by a 2002 appearance on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" program in which Robertson said about Islam's prophet, Muhammad: "This man was an absolute wild-eyed fanatic. He was a robber and a brigand. And to say that these terrorists distort Islam, they're carrying out Islam. ... I mean, this man (Muhammad) was a killer. And to think that this is a peaceful religion is fraudulent."

Robertson also called Islam "a monumental scam" and claimed the Quran "is strictly a theft of Jewish theology."

[cloud8]

> Why do so many of you keep calling Islam a religion?

Not me. Islam is an ideology bent on world domination.
So-called "moderate" Moslems--the majority?--allow the terrorist war against America to continue.

[Ksnavely]

"My (Pats) apology would be a picture of me - P!$$!ng on the koran!"

And thanks to strict adherence by our society to the constitution, you have the freedom to do that. However you would quickly lose that freedom if we all started being pragmatic about adherence to the rules of the constitution.

[expatguy]

Just because you disagree with something, or even think that it is evil, doesn't mean you can exclude it from the conceptual category it belongs in.

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If we as a nation fail to recognize that Islam is not merely a religion, but rather a sociopolitical ideology then it will only be to our own peril.

Islam is the antithesis of Democracy and despite our nation's valiant attempt to introduce Democracy to countries such as Afghanistan and Iraq, it will never be able to take root.

You need only open your eyes and see the destruction that is being unleashed on Europe as we speak now ~ what is in store for America is much worse.

The only sociopolitical systems where Islam is able to germinate are either autocratic or theocratic or a combination of the two.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

[veronica]

Go Pat Go! :))

[Ksnavely]

"allow the terrorist war against America to continue."

OMG!!! No they are not, many Muslims are fighting the same terrorists we are in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. Many more are suffering under the oppressive boot of these terrorists and thug theocracies. They need and want freedom just like the rest of us. It is subtle discrimination to imply otherwise

You are right in the sense that Islam does seek to propagate itself to the 4 corners of the world and the people of Islam would love nothing more than to have everyone citizen of this world convert to Islam. But replace the word Islam with Christianity in the last sentence and you would have no difference. Most Muslims would not spread their message violently, as most Christians wouldn't either. How would you like Christianity to be judged strictly through the lens of the Crusades and the Inquisitions?

[Kretek]

I don't accept tyranny no matter what name or religious banner it goes by. But I evaluate individuals on an individual basis, and I don't automatically exclude entire groups based on some (unconstitutional) religious test.

I'm sorry, that sort of thinking - treating people as individuals - doesn't seem to be very popular.

[Ksnavely]

Sorry but that post is complete BS. Read all my other posts if you want to know why its BS.

[dannyboy72]

Sorry, I had lost you. My point was that if CAIR and other organiations achieve their goals of converting many, if not all, Americans to Islam, will they not then begin the process of instituting Shari'a law.

I cannot see a Muslim standing up to the Muslim community to protect the Constitution. They are more likely to accept the new form of government because it falls within their faith.

Freedom and democracy fall within the Christian and Jewish faiths. We believe that men and women are born with certain rights as outlined in our founding documents. No one can deny that the foundations of this country are built on the idea of LIMITED government because the founders believed that our citizens would live under the traditional "culture laws".

So back to my point. If Muslims become the majority, will they fight to protect the rights of the minorities and the freedoms guaranteed in the constitution or will they seek to convert the country to a Shari'a based system with the Mullahs in charge? I think the later.

If we don't look down the path and see what ultimately may become of the decisions we make today, we are dooming our chidren to a dangerous future - and they will blame us for not doing anything when the problem could have been resolved without bloodshed and struggle.

(this path comments applies to many issues in our country)

[Ksnavely]

Well if we already lost that freedom, then your right, why bother trying to keep what shred of it is left in tact. Good point

[Kretek]

To suggest that all Muslims are Atta's is a blatantly ignorant statement. Its some what akin to saying all Christians are Crusaders or Jim Jones.

If all Muslims are terrorists like Atta, then all Christians are terrorists like Rudolph. Right?

crickets from the double-standard crowd

[Ksnavely]

"Replace your brain with a vacuum...and you would have no difference."

Ah the old ad-homenim, a sure sign of a vacuous argument.

[Ksnavely]

Good point

[Ksnavely]

What I am (which you have completely mischaracterized) is irrelevant to the argument at hand, I take your resortment to personal attacks as a sign that you cannot reply with anything substantive concerning this issue.

[expatguy]

Sorry but that post is complete BS. Read all my other posts if you want to know why its BS.

Hrmm okay... Complete BS you say?

I have lived almost twenty years now in a Muslim country, speak the language and have studied Islam in an Islamic University.

I might have a smidgen of an idea of what I am talking about here FRiend.

You might wish to talk to Ali Sina over at FaithFreedom.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia