Cream reunion Royal Albert Hall, London

Yeah...Im not familiar with the models per se.

The older Marshall amps used EL34 / 6CA7 output tubes...which are power pentodes. They distort differently than the later amps which used (I believe) KT-88, which is a power tetrode tube. Sun also used KT-88's. The EL34, combined with the Celestion speakers made a fatter sound IMO.

I still have an old Magnatone amp which also used EL34s...I souped it up by increasing the supply to try and get a fat sound...but the amp still was biased a little too clean. I used JB Lansing speakers...which gave a bright sound and had lots of power efficiency. Dont know if they still make the instrument speakers...they were always pretty expensive.

There are web sites where you can get all the old schematics ...I may build a retro souped up Marshall amp some day..just for the hell of it.

The Fender amps all used 6L6G output tubes...which distorted differently from the other tubes. I dont know why the Fender Tweed series sounded differently from the later Fenders..I thought they both used the same tubes...maybe the later amps went with solid state rectifiers...which would give less compression than the tube rectifiers.

This is all techno geek tube amp stuff...feel free to disregard.

The two great Fender tweed amps I mentioned above (The Bassman and the Deluxe) used 2 x 5881 and 2 x 6V6GT output tubes, respectively. Most of the later blackface and silverface Fender amps, with a few notable exceptions, used the 6L6G output tubes you spoke of. ....and I'm not particularly fond of them.

Jim Marshall tried to incorporated much of the design of the '58 - 60 Fender Bassman into his first amps, and he succeeded. ....although the Fenders were both easier to work on and more reliable.

I like old Hiwatts -- built like tanks.

Thank you, Perfect Stranger, for the info on Ginger. I have a 1990 Masters of Reality release, but I thought they were a "one hit wonder"; Sugar Girl got some modest airplay at the time, but I had no idea Chris Gross had such a history! Since you didn't mention the name of the Masters of Reality CD Ginger appeared on, I'll mention it here, to save the next person from having to do the serarch; it is entitled: "Give Us Barabbas" Thanks again!

My favorite track on there is "Rolling Green" but "Ants in the Kitchen", "Tilt-a-Whirl" and "TUSA" are winners too.

Thanks for the title. I borrowed the CD from the guitar player in my band and copied it to my HD so I never paid much attention to the name.

Your welcome.

There are (cough cough) "private recordings" of the May 5 show at the RAH floating around........

They did a version of Stormy Monday that was absolutely remarkable. Strat or Gibson, EC is still god.

Without Cream there wouldn't have been Zeppelin, or any other hard rock band for that matter. Cream were it.....and from what I've heard they still are.

Amazing.

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