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1 posted on 05/03/2005 7:33:22 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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Have the lunatics taken over the asylum? You have sexual predators running rampant, judges thumbing their noses at the US Congress and starving a woman to death, and now 13 year old girls having abortions. What the hell is going on down there in Florida?


92 posted on 05/03/2005 12:56:12 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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Florida's high court cited state privacy rights in 1989 when it tossed out a law that would have required parental consent for a minor's abortion.

And yet, privacy or not, parents continue to be held legally responsible for just about everything else their kids do.

93 posted on 05/03/2005 12:56:40 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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Goverment is now Your Mom and Dad


100 posted on 05/03/2005 1:07:10 PM PDT by nextthunder
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Who is paying for this abortion? the tax payers?


102 posted on 05/03/2005 1:22:48 PM PDT by beansox
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There is no right answer to this. Either the child has the abortion, or she gives birth to the kid and it basically becomes an instant financial burden to the state, for many years.


130 posted on 05/03/2005 3:50:49 PM PDT by richmwill
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Note: If Planned Parenthood is funding some of the litigation for the girl to have the abortion, this is your tax dollars at work.

The Federal Government funds Planned Parenthood.

If nothing else, during the filibuster, this is an issue that can be raised for a place to cut funding in the Federal Budget -- Planned Parenthood and the abuse of little girls by Planned Parenthood.

131 posted on 05/03/2005 3:56:05 PM PDT by topher (John 5:58 + Exodus 21:22 +Jer 1:5 + Gen 9:6 +John 14:6 + Rev 12:1-17)
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I just found out the other day that the former President of Planned Parenthood was kicked out because she decided to have Planned Parenthood endorse John Kerry for President.

This is Gloria Feldt (spelling I am not sure of).

The web page:

Caught on Tape -- Planned Parenthood and NAF (National Abortion Federation) Conceal Child Abuse

The article on Child Abuse is half way down the web page. It talks about how an Planned Parenthood and NAF helped a 13 year old conceal a statutory rape by a 22 year old man. LDI had a young woman with a very young voice call and pose as a 13 year old. Over 800 tape recordings were made. Yet there has been no criminal indictments of either Planned Parenthood or NAF over this.

133 posted on 05/03/2005 4:06:12 PM PDT by topher (John 5:58 + Exodus 21:22 +Jer 1:5 + Gen 9:6 +John 14:6 + Rev 12:1-17)
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1) Why is she pregnant.

2) What capital crime has the baby committed that he must be executed.

3) Is Michael Schiavo still a free man?

136 posted on 05/03/2005 4:39:53 PM PDT by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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There is also the chance that she would be a great mother. A lot of children in wealthy two parent homes, end up in perma daycare. I think the kids would rather spend time with the mother then having lots of material possessions.


162 posted on 05/03/2005 6:11:58 PM PDT by ran15
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Alvarez held up the abortion until a psychological evaluation was completed, but he ruled Monday that the teen would not be physically or emotionally harmed by the abortion.

How could the judge or any psychologist possibly know that?

Unless this girl buries any semblence of conscience, she'll be having nightmares over this down the road.

165 posted on 05/03/2005 6:23:31 PM PDT by MitchellC
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The sad fact is that, two hundred or three hundred years from now, free peoples will look back on us with the same disgust and incomprehension that we look back on slaveholders with. Abortion is the slavery of the twenty-first century, and we will be remembered in history for what we do to oppose it.

Quite frankly, many of the folks on this thread who are supportive of the girl's "decision" sound very much like the slavery-apologists in the mid-nineteenth century. Of course, they were "against" slavery, but you couldn't just set free people who had been dependent all of their lives! They wouldn't know how to survive on their own, so it would be too cruel to just free the slaves. Maybe if we worked into it slowly...

Either abortion is right or wrong. Period. Either an innocent child is being killed, or it isn't. Period. The argument that we should be committing immoral acts to avoid temporary hardships or unpleasantness is to be ignorant of the fact that almost all long-term benefits require short-term pain. If doing the right thing was always easy or painless, then no one would ever do wrong. But it isn't, which is why you are judged by doing the right thing even when it is difficult.

In your quest to be "sensitive" to the issues, some of you are just being apologists for evil...

201 posted on 05/03/2005 8:09:06 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Still teaching... or a reasonable facsimile thereof...)
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I just saw a quote from this judge on Fox. He spoke about "...the risk of life...er...death...."


Dr. Freud, pick up the white courtesy phone. Dr. Freud....


218 posted on 05/03/2005 9:41:32 PM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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She became pregnant in state custody. Isn't this an issue for any of these folks?


221 posted on 05/03/2005 10:06:33 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Anyone watch "House" on Fox network Tuesday night? Had a 12 or 13 yr old girl getting an abortion. As House told her when she made it clear she didn't want her parents knowing she was pregnent, "According to New Jersey law, you're the boss."


222 posted on 05/04/2005 12:53:17 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Demand Mexico Turnover Fugitive Murderers: http://www.escapingjustice.com)
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This is incedible with Florida. Almost everyweek another horror story.


227 posted on 05/04/2005 5:33:31 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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"Judge OK's fetal infanticide for 13 y/o"


That's how it should read. It's people like this "judge" that are going to take a normally level-headed law abiding person and turn him or her into te next Eric Rudolph.


234 posted on 05/04/2005 7:42:44 AM PDT by trubluolyguy ("Sure dolphins are friendly and smart, friendly and smart on rye bread with mayo")
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This is the ultimate case of politicians passing on the buck. I bet every politician who passed this kind of notification law was showing off their pro-life credentials, but queitly they simply passed it on to the judiciary. The fault is of the politicians who support such law so that they can diffuse their garden variety pro-life advocates without actually doing anything to end abortion. The right can be stupid too.


246 posted on 05/04/2005 2:53:09 PM PDT by econ_grad
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"Legally speaking, it's not a difficult decision to make," Alvarez was quoted as saying by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. "Morally speaking, it's a very difficult decision for this court to make. ... But I'm not here to make the moral decision. I'm here to make the legal decisions."

He's right about that. It's too bad that the Supreme Court didn't understand and respect that when they decided Roe v. Wade.

252 posted on 05/05/2005 5:30:33 AM PDT by TigersEye ("Terri put the lie to them all. She wanted to live and she proved it." - 8mmMauser)
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...he ruled Monday that the teen would not be physically or emotionally harmed by the abortion.

IF she's be physically and emotionally spent by having the child, then I can't see how having an abortion any less so.

253 posted on 05/05/2005 5:50:47 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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Where's that outrage that was expressed when Terri Schiavo's life was surrendered?

Here we have an "innocent" baby being sucked into a sink through NO FAULT of his/her own and (relatively speaking) nothing. But let one woman, due in large part to HER OWN actions and decisions years ago, die because she can't feed herself and the country becomes infuriated.

The Terri Schiavo case is tragic and I'm not making light of it but... talk about sick.

What has become of what's right?

Deliver us now Lord!


256 posted on 05/05/2005 7:56:29 AM PDT by divulger ("Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo." - H. G. Wells (1866-1946))
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