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Judge Okays Abortion For Girl, 13
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 5/3/05 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/03/2005 7:33:22 AM PDT by areafiftyone

WEST PALM BEACH - A 13-year-old at the center of an abortion fight with the state was given permission Monday to terminate her pregnancy, but it was unclear whether she immediately underwent the procedure.

Attorneys for the girl, known only as L.G. in court papers, said the abortion was scheduled for later Monday. However, the state Department of Children and Families appealed the decision, according to Maxine Williams, one of the teen's attorneys.

"Since this is still in litigation, I can't speak to what's going on in court," DCF spokeswoman Marilyn Munoz said.

Palm Beach Juvenile Judge Ronald Alvarez issued an order last week temporarily stopping the teen, who lives in a state shelter, from having the abortion. DCF argued she was too young and immature to decide for herself and state law prohibited the agency from consenting to an abortion.

Alvarez held up the abortion until a psychological evaluation was completed, but he ruled Monday that the teen would not be physically or emotionally harmed by the abortion.

"Legally speaking, it's not a difficult decision to make," Alvarez was quoted as saying by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. "Morally speaking, it's a very difficult decision for this court to make. ... But I'm not here to make the moral decision. I'm here to make the legal decisions."

"He ruled that she is competent, that she has made a decision and that she has a right to act on that decision," said Howard Simon, executive director of the Florida branch of the American Civil Liberties Union, which helped represent the girl. The judge also declared "her right to act on that decision is also in her best interest," Simon said.

The teen, who was more than 14 weeks pregnant, has been in DCF care for at least four years.

Her attorneys say Florida law protects a minor's right to choose an abortion.

Florida's high court cited state privacy rights in 1989 when it tossed out a law that would have required parental consent for a minor's abortion.


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To: NautiNurse

Evil triumphs, but only for a season

Justice lies down in the dust
Hell's jaws upward hungry thrust
Demons laugh, so evil, fey
Sinking fangs in helpless prey
Come to steal, destroy and kill
Doing Satan's craven will
But in the end they'll pay the cost
In endless fires forever lost

EV


141 posted on 05/03/2005 5:14:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We, the people, are the...masters of...the courts...to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.")
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To: ukie

This is funny considering you were pro-death for Schiavo.

Quit acting like you're pro-life when you're not.

I'd suggest you stick to Slavic topics and refrain from posting Dem talking points on FR.


142 posted on 05/03/2005 5:15:19 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: pa mom
...but just acknowledge that the alternative is no bed of roses.

Parenting in an ideal situation, a classic family unit, is seldom a bed of roses. I'll stick with the less lethal thorns.

I've said it before, I'll say it again--if the girl has her baby, she will most likely (and quickly) lose her parental rights.

This girl needs help. Abortion is NOT going to help her.

143 posted on 05/03/2005 5:15:45 PM PDT by grellis ("Unless, God forbid, there are two Placentas walking around"--FR demkicker)
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To: tutstar
One thing's for sure and that is that DCF is a mess. I'd use another military term for "mess" if I knew I wouldn't get my post pulled and also don't want to ruin my reputation for clean language.

Fouled Up Beyond Repair -- which is what I call FUBR. Other people only know foul words other than the word foul for this acronym.

Back in the 1970's, computer programmers started using the variable foobar -- because an important computer was the result of a military project (Project MAC and the computer Multics).

144 posted on 05/03/2005 5:16:18 PM PDT by topher (John 5:58 + Exodus 21:22 +Jer 1:5 + Gen 9:6 +John 14:6 + Rev 12:1-17)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Well, we wouldn't want anyone to suffer for nine months, so just kill the baby.


145 posted on 05/03/2005 5:18:28 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: topher

LOL that's not the one I was thinking of...

CF


147 posted on 05/03/2005 5:21:53 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: madprof98

Okay, you are out of control.

Read my lips:

A 13 year old having a child is bad.

A 13 year old having an abortion is bad.

Bad, Bad, Bad.

Abortion. Not good.

Baby with teen mother. Not good.

Adoption good.


148 posted on 05/03/2005 5:23:14 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: grellis

I'm not saying the abortion will help her!!!!!!

Some of you cannot even admit that her having a child is not a good thing. Even if she places it for adoption, the best thing would have been that she never got pregnant in the first place. This situation is bad for her--do you not agree with that?

The deed is done now, meaning she is pregnant, and there is no alternate reality. But you do not bemoan the circumstances?


149 posted on 05/03/2005 5:26:05 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: pa mom

It's not fair. You only think some babies shoud be killed, not all of them!


150 posted on 05/03/2005 5:27:58 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: pa mom

So aborting the chidren means that they won't "suffer."
HAHAHAHA!!!

Do you really think being killed is painless?


151 posted on 05/03/2005 5:29:49 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: Jrabbit

The "something" Jeb could do is appeal the decision to SCOFLA.

Do you think it's worth the trouble? Seriously?


152 posted on 05/03/2005 5:33:16 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: pa mom
But you do not bemoan the circumstances?

If I'm not mistaken, I have done so a few times on this thread.

Some of you cannot even admit that her having a child is not a good thing.

This becomes the gray area I avoid like the plague. Having a child is not a good thing or a bad thing. It is not a thing at all. It is life. Nobody can pigeon-hole life, not poets, not pro-lifers, nobody. So, no, I cannot even admit that her having a child is not a good thing. Cannot, will not.

As for her having an abortion, you know where I stand.

153 posted on 05/03/2005 5:35:19 PM PDT by grellis ("Unless, God forbid, there are two Placentas walking around"--FR demkicker)
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To: pa mom
Many women will not place their babies for adoption and the children suffer.

This is supposed to make the case for the pre-emptive strike? Kill them because they might suffer? Nice.

154 posted on 05/03/2005 5:35:20 PM PDT by j_tull
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To: topher

Multics was an Operating System, not a computer.


155 posted on 05/03/2005 5:37:59 PM PDT by j_tull
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To: NJ_gent

A question -- can you think of a good reason to kill a born infant?


156 posted on 05/03/2005 5:46:20 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: stands2reason

Why don't you just go sit through a few hundred juvenile court hearings like I have and see what's going on with all of these parents and kids. You'll change your tune.


157 posted on 05/03/2005 5:46:45 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: monday

So your argument is that carrying the child to term MAY be dangerous for the mom, so we should kill the child.


158 posted on 05/03/2005 5:48:14 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: NJ_gent

I want to tell you this because you seem ignorant about the subject.

Foriegn adoptions have the same BS redtape crap that domestic adoptions do. You still need a home study and all the other bells and whistles. Foreign adoptions aren't cheap or easy.


159 posted on 05/03/2005 5:55:54 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: j_tull
Multics was an Operating System, not a computer.

True. True. True. It ran on a modified GE635 (modified as I recall by an MIT student). GE decided to sell the computer division to Honeywell, so Multics ran on the Honeywell 6000 series computer. Then they all seemed to vanish into the Pentagon and the CIA...

160 posted on 05/03/2005 5:56:06 PM PDT by topher (John 5:58 + Exodus 21:22 +Jer 1:5 + Gen 9:6 +John 14:6 + Rev 12:1-17)
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