[agere_contra]

Got to agree with you mc6809e.

I have a feeling that those who think you're advocating some fascist utopia are probably noise pests themselves, and don't know it.

[WoofDog123]

I think to some degree it may be cultural...in much of the US people would have a hard time imagining the level of subject-surveillance, speech controls with criminal penalties, etc., that you have in the UK. I have spent quite a bit of time in the UK and I still have trouble visualizing it.