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1 posted on 05/02/2005 6:48:05 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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2 posted on 05/02/2005 6:50:09 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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The only people I see buying something like this are a bunch of rich oil sheiks in the Middle East.


3 posted on 05/02/2005 6:51:36 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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If I were Bill Gates and this was 1998 and I was worth $130 billion, I'd buy one.


4 posted on 05/02/2005 6:52:18 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Paleo Conservative

As much as I love seeing new planes, I'm not fond of Airbus or their host countries. But I would like to see the new bird!


5 posted on 05/02/2005 6:53:19 PM PDT by pissant (select your paddle carefully)
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According to sources in the company, an Indian airline has asked for a plane with an all-economy configuration, which means a carrying capacity of 850.


6 posted on 05/02/2005 6:54:01 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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Sorry, but a plane with 850 Indians on it would stink (literally) to high heaven.

You couldn't pay me to get on that flight, without an oxygen mask.


7 posted on 05/02/2005 6:57:31 PM PDT by Guillermo (Vote for Pedro)
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Airports are upgrading? I hope not with public money.


8 posted on 05/02/2005 6:57:38 PM PDT by Brilliant
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So, they're going to cram a bunch of people in an A380 in cattle-car mode? This will be interesting to see.


9 posted on 05/02/2005 6:57:46 PM PDT by wk4bush2004
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Could it be that Airbus is keeping secret because 1. they are afraid of loosing out to boeing or 2. there is no deal and airbus is trying to save their humiliated face.

I do find it VERY ironic that the people here on FR who predicted this would become a super cramped bus configuration in the end have been proven correct.

Does anyone know what the cost per passenger mile is compared to the dreamliner.


10 posted on 05/02/2005 6:58:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Lemme call Bill and his pal Paul Allen, maybe they are interested in the Airbus. Hey, Paul Allen own 3 superyachts, one of them is the octopus
11 posted on 05/02/2005 7:00:09 PM PDT by Random Nonsense
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Imagine: a 12-hour flight on a plane with 849 other people, it takes you 20 minutes to get off the plane, 10 minutes to get to customs, three hours to get through customs, and two hours searching for your baggage.


14 posted on 05/02/2005 7:15:29 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Anybody ever figure the logistical upgrade cost to handle a big plane like that? I don't think one can just drive up to a standard terminal to load/unload one of those monsters.


20 posted on 05/02/2005 7:23:29 PM PDT by caisson71
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Stink is not the only thing you have to worry about.

What is going to happen when one those planes goes down with all 850 souls lost? Every time a plane crashes, they will refer to Airbus Flight XXX as the worst civil aviation disaster ever. The public relations effect will be a disastrous nightmare for Airbus.

I spent five years in the Air Foce and I hate to fly. There is no way I will even consider flying on a plane that large.


23 posted on 05/02/2005 7:49:54 PM PDT by Max Flatow
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According to sources in the company, an Indian airline has asked for a plane with an all-economy configuration, which means a carrying capacity of 850.

Airbus Industries may have lost to its American rival Boeing in the race to sell its aircraft to Air-India, but the European company is seriously pursuing private airlines in India, pitching the biggest passenger aircraft ever built, the A380.

It's really too bad...that just means more people are going to die in each Airbust crash. =(

24 posted on 05/02/2005 7:50:47 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on.....)
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The only use for these planes is maybe in cargo, but even there it doesn't seem too smart.

FedEx is planning to buy 10 of the monsters, but doesn't have enough traffic on any lanes to support it. Maybe with a lot of growth, they could use a handful, but my guess is that it was done because

1) Fred Smith just loves airplanes and
2) wants to curry favor with the Euros.

34 posted on 05/02/2005 8:27:11 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts" ---Abe Lincoln, 1858.)
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That would be one hell of a fun party jet.

I doubt John Travolta has the dough for it (the rumor is he may buy a Convair 880 and fix it up).

The Saudi family has a nice duded up 747SP and a L1011 that are toys.


36 posted on 05/02/2005 8:38:45 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Remember when conservatives embraced the rule of law? (Do ya?))
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Back in the day, I used to fly into Dehli on Pan Am One, which would arrive 20 minutes before Pan Am Two, coming around the other way. The two 747s would leave New York 20 minutes apart, One going East and Two going West. They would cross over in Dehli in the middle of the night.

So you had two 747s hit Pahlgam Airport within 20 minutes of each other, every day. To say it was mayhem is an considerable understatement. They never did fix the problem. They just had a slug of passengers arrive every day at midnight, and tried to get them out the door by 6 AM.


40 posted on 05/03/2005 3:15:06 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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850 people would be like sitting in a crowded movie theater - for 6, 8, 9, 10, hours of the flight.

Not for Me.....


44 posted on 05/03/2005 5:27:23 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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The A380s need exclusive parking bays, strengthening of taxiing tracks and adequate space for the mighty 79.9 metre wing span. “AAI has received written requests from various foreign carriers, especially those having a large presence at Indian airports, such as Singapore Airlines, Emirates Airlines and Lufthansa,” Mr Ramalingam said.

Also, AAI must take care of what happens inside the terminal: check-in space, baggage handling and security to service up to 850 passengers. For international terminals it will also have to provide space and increase manpower at the customs and immigration counters.

Anybody know how/if these costs will be reflected in landing fees?

Will airlines have to pay more for landing one of these aircrapt and might airports try to establish fees that incorporate the needs of the A380 into all the other landings so the A380 fees aren't relatively higher?

47 posted on 05/03/2005 9:33:18 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Planned Parenthood is neither.)
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