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Minister speaks at Pa. gay rights rally
AP ^ | 5/1/5 | JANICE PODSADA

Posted on 05/01/2005 7:00:48 PM PDT by SmithL

PHILADELPHIA - A Methodist minister who had been defrocked for being in a lesbian relationship, then was reinstated, called for an end to discrimination against gays in a speech to hundreds of supporters Sunday.

"Other faith traditions out there have tried to shut us down and tell us we're not worthy," said the Rev. Irene Elizabeth Stroud, who spoke along with the Episcopal Church's first openly gay bishop, V. Gene Robinson, at an interfaith service. "I pray for a day when no one will experience discrimination."

Stroud, who was defrocked after she told her Philadelphia congregation that she was in a relationship with another woman, was reinstated by a Methodist court last week. The decision could be overturned if leaders with the United Methodist Church decide to appeal.

She did not mention the controversy directly, but said: "My journey is not over."

Earlier in the day, police estimated between 2,000 and 3,000 gay-rights supporters converged on Independence Hall to celebrate the 40th anniversary of what some have called the first gay rights demonstration.

On July 4, 1965, a group of 40 protesters marched in front of Independence Hall to denounce public policies that labeled gays as mentally ill and a national security risk. The demonstration came four years before the Stonewall Riots in New York City, considered by many to have launched the equal rights movement for gays.

"They were brave. They were defiant and they launched our civil rights movement," said Michael Williams, who heads Philadelphia's Minority Business Enterprise Council.

The rally, organized by Equality Forum, a gay civil rights group, included a tribute to 40 people for challenging social conventions or laws that discriminated against gays and lesbians.

Robinson, whose consecration as bishop in New Hampshire in 2003 has roiled the Episcopal Church, talked about a loving God during his sermon at the historic Christ Church near Independence Hall.

"We hear God's voice and it says you are my beloved," he said. "We have tasted God's liberation and that toothpaste is not going to go back in the tube."

Outside the church, about 25 protesters, including members of the conservative Christian group Repent America, protested Sunday's daylong celebration of gay rights.

Jim Deferio, of Syracuse, N.Y., said he came to encourage gay rights supporters to turn away from homosexuality and toward God.

"I didn't drive all this way to hate people," Deferio said.

Meanwhile, in Colorado Springs, Colo., about 500 people protested outside the headquarters of Focus on the Family, a conservative Christian group led by James Dobson that has vigorously opposed gay rights and same-sex marriages.

"We are here to say, Jim, we love you enough to stop you from doing the damage you are doing to families across the nation," said Mel White, executive director of Soulforce, a national interfaith organization that supports gay rights.

Many in the crowd held rainbow flags, multicolored balloons and signs reading "God Loves Justice" and "Love Thy Neighbor." An American Indian group played drums and some protesters sang "We Shall Overcome."

Kendra Wiig, a bisexual college student, said she fears she could jeopardize her desired career as a college professor if she is open about her sexuality.

"Although Focus says homosexuality is against families and against religion there are a lot of loving families with gay mothers, daughters and sons," she said.

Thomas Minnery, the group's director of public policy, denied that Focus delivers a message of hate but reiterated the organization's belief that homosexuality violates Biblical scripture.

"There are thousands of people who have left homosexuality, including some on our staff. To say that one is born that way obviously flies in the face of facts," he said.

Dobson was not at the headquarters Sunday, Minnery said. He is traveling on the East Coast this week and was expected to be in Washington, D.C., for the National Day of Prayer events on Thursday.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defrocked; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; homsexualagenda; ncc; pastor; prohomosexual
This wasn't interfaith. Everyone there worshiped at the alter of homosexualism.
1 posted on 05/01/2005 7:00:50 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

These homosexuals really should take their protests to God. He said (in the Bible) that what they do is an abomination.


2 posted on 05/01/2005 7:07:50 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: SmithL

Another version of the AP story (minus the parts about Focus on the Family and the Colorado protests) concludes as follows:

", protested throughout Sunday's daylong celebration of gay rights.

Jim Deferio, 54, of Syracuse, N.Y., who took part in the protest, said he came to encourage those attending to turn away from homosexuality and toward God.

"I didn't drive all this way to hate people," Deferio said.

Earlier in the day, several thousand gay-rights supporters converged on Independence Hall to celebrate the 40th anniversary of what some have called the first gay rights demonstration.

On July 4, 1965, a group of 40 protesters marched in front of Independence Hall to denounce public policies that labeled gays as mentally ill and a national security risk. The demonstration came four years before the Stonewall Riots in New York City, considered by many to have launched the equal rights movement for gays.

"They were brave. They were defiant and they launched our civil rights movement" said Michael Williams, who heads Philadelphia's Minority Business Enterprise Council.

Sunday's event, organized by Equality Forum, a gay civil rights group, included a tribute to 40 people for challenging social conventions or laws that discriminated against gays and lesbians.

Among those honored were Frank Kameny, 79, of Washington, D.C., who organized the 1965 rally, as well as Kevin Bourassa, 46, and Joe Varnell, 35, a Toronto couple who successfully challenged Canada's ban against same-sex marriage.

Also honored was retired Col. Margarethe Cammermeyer, of Whidbey Island, Wash., a decorated Vietnam veteran who challenged the military's policy on gays in 1991.

"I'm here for those who are (serving) or have served in the military in silence," said Cammermeyer, who arrived in her Army uniform.

Malcolm Lazin, executive director of Equality Forum, which is based in Philadelphia, had hoped to unveil a state-approved historical marker Sunday naming Independence Hall as the birthplace of gay rights, a designation disputed by some historians.

But the group's spokesman, Dan Wagner, said the marker, approved by the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission in March, won't be ready until June. It is to be placed near the site of the 1965 protest at Independence Hall.

Repent America's protest was in turn countered by members of the Metropolitan Community Church of Philadelphia, who described themselves as an inclusive Christian community, and who carried signs that included rainbows and religious messages.

"You can be Christian and gay," said Al Flemming, 31, of Wilmington"


3 posted on 05/01/2005 7:31:16 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: MisterRepublican

"The decision could be overturned if leaders with the United Methodist Church decide to appeal."

Should read WILL be overturned. Go to www.umc.org and get
the complete story.

from The Book Of Disiplin

Regarding the ministry of the ordained

¶304.3

While persons set apart by the Church for ordained ministry are subject to all the frailties of the human condition and the pressures of society, they are required to maintain the highest standards of holy living in the world. The practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching. Therefore self-avowed practicing homosexuals1 are not to be certified as candidates, ordained as ministers, or appointed to serve in The United Methodist Church.2
1. "Self-avowed practicing homosexual" is understood to mean that a person openly acknowledges to a bishop, district superintendent, district committee of ordained ministry, board of ordained ministry, or clergy session that the person is a practicing homosexual. See Judicial Council Decisions 702, 708, 722, 725, 764, 844.
2. See Judicial Council Decisions 984, 985.


4 posted on 05/01/2005 7:42:23 PM PDT by SAWTEX
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To: SAWTEX

Bump


5 posted on 05/01/2005 7:48:40 PM PDT by SAWTEX
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To: SmithL

WHAT discrimination? I mean it. Say to a gay person's face, WHAT discrimination do they face???


6 posted on 05/01/2005 8:31:27 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: SmithL
"Kendra Wiig, a bisexual college student, said she fears she could jeopardize her desired career as a college professor if she is open about her sexuality."

Oh please! If anything, the fact that this woman is bi gets her the fast track to tenure on most college campuses today. Someone call this moron a wambulance stat!

7 posted on 05/01/2005 8:34:12 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: Desron13

It also doubles her chance for a date on Saturday night.


8 posted on 05/01/2005 8:36:58 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: SmithL

Good point. Plus when she does become a prof, she can play the tenure fast track system with both male and female superiors.


9 posted on 05/01/2005 8:41:48 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: SmithL

By the way, are you still currently a bubble head? I used to be an ASW type skimmer.


10 posted on 05/01/2005 8:46:22 PM PDT by Desron13
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