Posted on 05/01/2005 6:13:42 PM PDT by AmericanDave
I was reading about the Social Security shortfall in revenue. And about how it was due to the Baby Boomers (of which I'm one, thank you) retiring with too small a workforce behind us to support the system. "And it made me wonder" 1. Why less children being born since the end of the boom in early 1960's. 2. Have there been NO baby booms since then? 3. Could the legalizing of abortion coincide with this population decline?! 4. Could overturning Roe vs Wade create enough people STILL to be old enough to SAVE Social Security without any changes to the current system?
IIRC, the number of abortions since 1973 is about 40 million.
That can't be exactly translated into a population increase if abortion hadn't been legalized by judicial fiat, of couse, so it gets harder to figure out what America's population might be. I would argue at least 20 million though.
Well, it would just postpone the inevitable. So if you can say that there would be 40 million more people, for example, you have to factor in that while they will contribute SS money on the front end, they will also be collecting social security on the backend, so now you would have more people on the backend collecting than we do now.
By that standard, abortion didn't 'cause' the SS shortfall. It hastened it, probably, given trends already in place (like life expectancy rising).
At least they'd be doing jobs Americans aren't willing to do, and paying taxes into the system. /sarc
It is pretty obvious.
Ponzi schemes require an infinite supply of new members... to the point where Washington, DC is united in wanting to turn illegals into tax revenue while deliberately ignoring the obligation to keep these people out of the country.
Those at the first of it made out like bandits, but it is now time to pay the piper and its shortcomings are evident.
Why in the hell would we want to save Social Security as the way it is?
Good thing we didn't prolong the agony of this ponzi scheme then.
The lower birthrate and family size can't be attributed only to abortion. I have always been of the opinion that the smaller family size is the result of the remote controlled television hooked up to cable which made children superfluous. I think that is the reason my parents had five children spread out over 10 years--they needed little channel changers and rabbit ear adjusters.
It's true by about 35 million (IIRC), but it's too late to start pumping babies out to save the system.
That's why they're importing a workforce.
You can't eliminate your tax base at the rate they've been aborting..... without repercussions. Awhile back, we started hearing rumors about some of the elementary schools closing because there weren't enough kids enrolled, to make them profitable. That's when it hit me that the abortions had finally taken a toll.
Aborting 40 million Americans made room for 40 million immigrants.
The other thing is the rise in illegitimate births. This country has always had a substantial population of people who love babies irrespective of their origin. At the same time there's this crowd that's embarassed by things sexual, and by pregnancy outside of wedlock.
As the latter group kills its offspring with abandon, the former group has even more kids.
Eventually the pro-abortion crowd will disappear biologically in this country. We will be done with them, and it can't come soon enough.
Abortions to a limited extent, understood with the increase in women desiring to work and working rather than having kids or as many kids.
Also to determine the effect of legalized abortion factor in vastly increased promiscuity, improved methods of birth control, an aborted child being deliberately "replaced" with a child in the future that otherwise would not have been conceived, abortions that would have occurred even if they were not legal, and the mentality that flows from legalized abortion that pregnancy and its continuance is a choice in its own right rather than the result of a choice. It gets complicated. Then there’s other things, like the ridiculous number of ne’er-do-wells adhering to liberal “values” and increased life length from various things.
Consider also the role social security played itself. By planning to get money from the government, fewer aged relied on their children. Those children and their wives or husbands then no longer have that already existing reason to not be employed, and they won’t make the decision that since they already need to be home (let’s be honest, the women), the might as well care for the young with the old. Not to mention the money that would have been spent caring for older relatives is not there because the government is withholding it. Was this foreseen and deliberate by its creators?
Then there’s the fact that social security can be blamed for its own problems. How would you stop a system like it with such stupid cyclical dependency? Ie. People who have already paid specially into the system deserve to get that money back and people who initially received from it never put significant money into it.
Unfortunately, to stack problem upon problem, the people who are having the most children or otherwise contributing to the population often lack the ethics and principles required of a system such as social security that is GIVE and then TAKE. They fail to understand the importance of the first part--they will perhaps after the second part is eliminated.
Read the book, "The Birth Derth".
Liberals have enabled genocide to the tune of 40,000,000!!
And illegal immigrants to fill the jobs.
Heartless, brutal and insane.
I suspect this sufferes from static analysis. For example, if a woman has an abortion when she's 18, then has a kid when she's 24, your numbers assume that had she not had the abortion she still would have had a second child, and that's often not going to be the case.
In India and China, people who have abortions end up having many fewer daughters ~ because they abort the daughters!
On the other hand, maybe some couples simply like their freedom to go where they want without 10 sproggen in tow. :)
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