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Wind turbines have no place in the Adirondacks, an enviro-group says (on GORE Mt. no less!)
The Saratogian ^ | May 1, 2005 | Paul Post

Posted on 05/01/2005 7:03:17 AM PDT by DTogo

John Sheehan of the Adirondack Council said there is overwhelming historical precedent to prevent any type of building that detracts from the region's scenic vistas and landscapes.

Barton Mines Co. wants to put 10 wind turbines near the north slope of Gore Mountain that would produce 27 megawatts of power.

'Its impact on the state's energy production would be negligible,' Sheehan said. 'But its impact on the Adirondack Park's future would be disastrous. That's the bottom line for us.

'Putting these towers up will not prevent the construction of a single coal-fired power plant, nor will it force a coal plant to close.'

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: adirondacks; energy; renewable; windenergy; windfarm; windpower
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The irony here is too funny! Enviro group doesn't want clean energy on "Gore" mountain. Couldn't be any more hypocritical than Sen. Kerry bashing President Bush over clean energy and in the next breath not supporting the Cape Wind farm off Nantucket.
1 posted on 05/01/2005 7:03:18 AM PDT by DTogo
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To: DTogo

Lots of wind up there on Gore Mountain...stored in a lock box.


2 posted on 05/01/2005 7:09:00 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: DTogo
Gore Mountain (there's already a ski slope with lifts and gondolas)


4 posted on 05/01/2005 7:13:31 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: DTogo

OK, then the power company needs to announce that because of objections, the wind turbines will not be built. Instead, a new nuclear power plant will be constructed to meet the need, thanks to the environmentalists' objections.

Then watch them either contort themselves into little logical pretzels to object against it, or kill themselves.

}:-)4


5 posted on 05/01/2005 7:14:00 AM PDT by Moose4 (Richmond, Virginia--commemorating 140 years of Yankee occupation this month.)
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To: DTogo
The environmentalist label needs to go, These people are pure anti capitalists and socialists. If the wind farm were to be built totally on taxpayer funds alone and there was a guarantee that no one would ever earn a dime they would be all over it.

True environmentalist/conservatives like myself recognize that we can live in relative harmony with the environment. We're just unwilling to accept socialism as a means of doing so.
6 posted on 05/01/2005 7:14:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: TADSLOS

LOL!


7 posted on 05/01/2005 7:15:49 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: DTogo

27 megs ? Ten kids on ten-speed bikes produce that much...


8 posted on 05/01/2005 7:20:25 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: DTogo
Actually, a Kerry donor is involved with the Nantucket wind farm. J"F'in" K withheld [public] criticism.

Maybe his raisin eating wife...

The same fight is going on here in VT. The landowners stand to make some bucks. The envirowhackos claim the "view".

9 posted on 05/01/2005 7:20:52 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: DTogo

Gore mountin'?

10 posted on 05/01/2005 7:24:52 AM PDT by Jhensy
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To: DTogo

There is a problem. A wind farm in WV is currently the focus of a study which has found large numbers of bats being killed by the wind turbines.


11 posted on 05/01/2005 7:26:02 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: DTogo
The best source of wind power is in the meetings of the Congressional Black Caucus.

So much wasted hot air.

12 posted on 05/01/2005 7:27:18 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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"There is a problem. A wind farm in WV is currently the focus of a study which has found large numbers of bats being killed by the wind turbines."


The first question would be are they endangered bats? Second I would ask if the numbers killed are having a real impact on the bat population. I would also ask if there is a way to drive the bats away from the turbines.


13 posted on 05/01/2005 7:40:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: DTogo

Ok, so don't use wind turbines. There has to be another way to harvest electricity from all that hot air on Gore Mountain.


14 posted on 05/01/2005 7:43:31 AM PDT by Darnright
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To: DTogo

While there is a place for wind and hydro power on a small scale on a community by community basis, there is only one alternative (not oil / coal based) energy source that is practical on a national scale, nuclear. Others are being developed but nothing is ready to implement on a grand scale.


15 posted on 05/01/2005 7:52:14 AM PDT by ndt
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To: DTogo

'Putting these towers up will not prevent the construction of a single coal-fired power plant, nor will it force a coal plant to close.'

Truth, we need to build clean burn coal plants and nuclear plants to address our energy needs. The alternative stuff and conserving are not effective for a growing economy.


16 posted on 05/01/2005 7:54:28 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

27MW / 10 turbines = 2.7MW turbine? Never heard of such a machine, most land-based turbines are between 1.0 ~ 2.1MW each.


17 posted on 05/01/2005 7:58:07 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: cripplecreek

From what I've read just the fact they've found bat carcasses is a problem because the carcasses don't last long. The remains of a deer lying dead beside a roadside will be there for weeks and longer. The body of a bird disintegrates rapidly in comparision. Apparently they don't check the kill zone frequently enough to be able to say how many are being killed other than it's a larger number than they previously thought possible.

My guess is that they thought bats with their echo location would be able to avoid the blades. That's not true. The study was originally looking for dead birds when they found the bats. I have no idea if any are endangered.


18 posted on 05/01/2005 8:01:31 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: oso blanco
"The enviro wackos are just like a woman. Give them exactly what they want and they still find something to bitch about."


LOL, Thank you for having the guts to say that. I agree completely.
19 posted on 05/01/2005 8:03:34 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: meatloaf

"My guess is that they thought bats with their echo location would be able to avoid the blades. That's not true."


I know that they run into things because in my 40 years Ive personally seen bats run into telephone poles a sign posts several times. (Bats interest me so I watch them and see these things)


20 posted on 05/01/2005 8:10:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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