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Wind turbines have no place in the Adirondacks, an enviro-group says (on GORE Mt. no less!)
The Saratogian ^ | May 1, 2005 | Paul Post

Posted on 05/01/2005 7:03:17 AM PDT by DTogo

John Sheehan of the Adirondack Council said there is overwhelming historical precedent to prevent any type of building that detracts from the region's scenic vistas and landscapes.

Barton Mines Co. wants to put 10 wind turbines near the north slope of Gore Mountain that would produce 27 megawatts of power.

'Its impact on the state's energy production would be negligible,' Sheehan said. 'But its impact on the Adirondack Park's future would be disastrous. That's the bottom line for us.

'Putting these towers up will not prevent the construction of a single coal-fired power plant, nor will it force a coal plant to close.'

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: adirondacks; energy; renewable; windenergy; windfarm; windpower
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To: DTogo
It's always fun to see the Left called on their hypocrisy. They said they wanted sustainable, renewable, non-polluting power and windmills provide that - and apparently are at least somewhat economically viable.

Now that we met their requirements, they change the rules of the road and redefine pollution to mean anything that they don't like looking at - when we all know that their real goal is to shut down this country's economy.

BUSTED
21 posted on 05/01/2005 8:22:09 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL
As El Rushbo says, the Left doesn't want a solution to their issue du jour, they simply want the issue. In Japanese it's called sonzai kachi - justifying your existence.

When the President's energy legislation gets passed they know we will have more refineries, more nukes, more renewables, and more domestic oil production. There goes their issue - more energy, more clean energy, and cheaper energy.

22 posted on 05/01/2005 8:40:30 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: meatloaf
Sounds more like the bat population has rabies or some other disease if they're flying into things.
23 posted on 05/01/2005 8:57:11 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: DTogo

Today, one of the most powerful religions in the Western World is environmentalism.

Environmentalism seems to be the religion of choice for urban atheists. Why do I say it's a religion? Well, just look at the beliefs. If you look carefully, you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect 21st century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths.

There's an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature, there's a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a judgment day coming for us all.

We are all energy sinners, doomed to die, unless we seek salvation, which is now called sustainability. Sustainability is salvation in the church of the environment. Just as organic food is its communion, that pesticide-free wafer that the right people with the right beliefs, imbibe.

Eden, the fall of man, the loss of grace, the coming doomsday---these are deeply held mythic structures. They are profoundly conservative beliefs. They may even be hard-wired in the brain, for all I know. I certainly don't want to talk anybody out of them, as I don't want to talk anybody out of a belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God who rose from the dead. But the reason I don't want to talk anybody out of these beliefs is that I know that I can't talk anybody out of them. These are not facts that can be argued. These are issues of faith.

And so it is, sadly, with environmentalism. Increasingly it seems facts aren't necessary, because the tenets of environmentalism are all about belief. It's about whether you are going to be a sinner, or saved.

Whether you are going to be one of the people on the side of salvation, or on the side of doom. Whether you are going to be one of us, or one of them. - Michael Crichton, author of “Jurassic Park”


24 posted on 05/01/2005 8:58:56 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DTogo

Heck, they could put one up in my backyard if I could get free electricity.


25 posted on 05/01/2005 8:59:25 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: DTogo

"As El Rushbo says, the Left doesn't want a solution to their issue du jour, they simply want the issue."

Right on.


26 posted on 05/01/2005 9:04:06 AM PDT by BobL
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To: mtbopfuyn

Rabid bats are not unknown in WV. If I recall correctly, the kill at the wind farm was in the hundreds. That seems to be too high to be accounted for by rabies. Maybe they were eating mosquitos that had recently fed on meth heads.

The drugged out bats never had a chance. Flying high and getting smashed ... literally.


27 posted on 05/01/2005 9:08:05 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: DTogo
"Wind power" has no place anywhere. It is perhaps the most idiotic, inefficent, loss-leading methods of wattage production ever conceived.

If we built 100 new nuke plants, 20 new refineries, and allowed drilling in the Rockies and off Florida, all this stupid talk of 55 mph and "conservation" would evaporate, and we would never need another drop of foreign oil or LNG.

28 posted on 05/01/2005 9:18:53 AM PDT by montag813
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To: ndt

yep, we need more nuclear power plants for sure. but wind energy can be very powerful if you put tons of them up. gore mountain is crappy skiing anyway, they should put a thousand of them up there and many more around those mountains. nimby environmentalists lose all credibility.


29 posted on 05/01/2005 9:21:18 AM PDT by parmaright
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To: DTogo

Must be the peak power on the windiest day.


30 posted on 05/01/2005 9:41:42 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: DTogo
Putting up wind turbines anywhere that requires long lines There are less than 120 days per year that you can see more than 20 miles in the Adirondacks anyway, and half of them your nose falls off from the cold.
31 posted on 05/01/2005 9:43:13 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect, humble of course and obviously incapable of discrimination.)
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To: DTogo
Limousene Liberal Hypocrit Alert!

East Coast Prius-driving Kerry Liberals say, "No stinking wind turbines in our back yard!"

32 posted on 05/01/2005 10:59:12 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: montag813; pabianice
"Wind power" has no place anywhere. It is perhaps the most idiotic, inefficent, loss-leading methods of wattage production ever conceived.

Wrong.

pabianice, yep! Note my homepage.

33 posted on 05/01/2005 11:27:09 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: DTogo; neverdem

Yeah good luck,

They won't even let you put small cell phone towers on any of the mountains in the Adirondacks, so forget about any wind turbines.


34 posted on 05/01/2005 11:33:03 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: oso blanco

I really think that the enviro-wackos are another death cult. Note their mantra "humanity is a virus infecting the Earth Mother Goddess Gaia". Check the writings of some of the really hard core "deep ecology" types, and you will find radical depopulation schemes, requiring essentially what would be genocide. It has nothing to do with any science, it is an extreme cultish belief system.


35 posted on 05/01/2005 11:36:05 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (I live in Minnesota, I run a business in Minnesota, but I remain a TEXAN!)
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To: DTogo

Puny.


36 posted on 05/01/2005 11:50:14 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: meatloaf

I am happy about that, I hate bats! Down with bats Up with wind turbines!


37 posted on 05/01/2005 1:41:33 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: DTogo
Somehow these environuts must be put in their place.

These people are hypocrites and the main reason America is in the fix it is in today.
38 posted on 05/01/2005 1:48:41 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Ditter

I'm sure the mosquitos they eat as well as the moths and other insects would agree with you.


39 posted on 05/01/2005 1:52:53 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: OKIEDOC
These people are hypocrites and the main reason America is in the fix it is in today.

Yep! Otherwise we'd have more oil and gas coming in from offshore wells and ANWR, a huge windfarm off the coast of Nantucket, plenty more refineries and nukes in the country, not to mention a border fence between Sandiego and Tijuana.

40 posted on 05/01/2005 1:52:57 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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