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Unmentioned Energy Fix: A 55 M.P.H. Speed Limit
The New York Times ^ | May 1, 2005 | Jad Mouawad and Simon Romero

Posted on 05/01/2005 6:19:00 AM PDT by MississippiMasterpiece

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To: MississippiMasterpiece; Cobra64; speed_addiction; martin_fierro; dixiechick2000

I'll gladly pay unrestricted fair-market prices of up to $5 per gallon for my FREEDOM to drive Autobahn style where it's safe, thankyouverymuch, NYTimes.

And unrestricted fair-market is the big issue, thankyouverymuch, enviro-wacko Marxists.

ANWR not A.N.S.W.E.R.


21 posted on 05/01/2005 6:31:50 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
Other industrialized countries, especially in Europe, have been much more successful than the United States and have managed to actually lower oil demand, or at least keep it in check. That comes from higher diesel use and higher taxes. In France and Germany, a gallon of gasoline sells for as much as $6, with taxes accounting for about 80 percent of that.

Funny that the authors don't mention that Germany, along with high gasoline taxes, also has no speed limits on the Autobahns.

In Germany, the highways are built much better than here in the states. There's much better drainage, and much less of a gradient or curve allowed. In the United States, when we build a highway, it's pretty much just slap down asphalt over the ground. Highways in the United States can have sharp curves, steep hills, and the like. In Germany, on the unlimited speed portions, there are strict limits to this type of thing. Instead of going down a hill and then up a hill, the Germans will build a bridge over a valley to avoid a grade.

This is of course incredibly expensive, but it allows Germans to drive with unlimited speed limits. On may highways in America, even if the road were clear of all cars, driving 100 mph would be incredibly dangerous. Take 95 through Connecticut, for example.

So the Germans have high taxes, but it allows them to drive at very fast speeds, saving time for drivers. Of course, Germany is a lot smaller, so this might be an acceptable trade-off. In the United States, with a much lower population density, this might not work out so well.

22 posted on 05/01/2005 6:31:59 AM PDT by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

The deceased use no oil or gas. Maybe these guys should sacrafice for the rest of us and off themselves.

If enough do it, demand will go down, and will prices.

Sounds like a win-win to me.


23 posted on 05/01/2005 6:32:41 AM PDT by Mortikhi
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

Make the NYT slow the speed of their presses first!


24 posted on 05/01/2005 6:33:31 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
immediately: bring back the 55 miles-per-hour speed limit.

The loss in productivity from such a limit would dwarf any fuel "savings". The answer is to open up the Floida Gulf and ANWR for drilling, the Rockies for LNG exploration, and open 5 new refineries and one nuclear plant every single year.

25 posted on 05/01/2005 6:34:06 AM PDT by montag813
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

Might as well adopt the "Kyoto" method and 'buy' speeding credits from slower drivers to drive over 55.


26 posted on 05/01/2005 6:36:08 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (-)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
In France and Germany, a gallon of gasoline sells for as much as $6, with taxes accounting for about 80 percent of that.

Well there you go...all we need is higher taxes, that's the cure all for every problem.

Not.

It's amazing how people can work in socialism to every "piece" they manage to spew forth,

27 posted on 05/01/2005 6:36:09 AM PDT by corlorde (Without the home of the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
Anyone advocating adding taxes to gas should be shot and leave this world forever. That is not an answer. The 55 mph speed limit may be a decent idea if we start hitting $75 for a barrel of oil. But we need need an energy plan now.
28 posted on 05/01/2005 6:36:36 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Koblenz

According to an atrical from the NYT shown here yesterday, the French and Germans use ~66% of the oil per person that the US does. Assuming that all of that difference is due to the higher road fuel taxes, we'd only get a 33% reduction from the large tax increse.


29 posted on 05/01/2005 6:36:43 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: Paladin2
Why not make the speed limit Zero?

Waaaay back when, the Journal of Irreproducible Results printed a spoof research paper on the 55 mph speed limit arguing that passing a law that everyone drive backwards in reverse gear would result in a net creation of gasoline!

(Makes more sense than the NY Times!)

30 posted on 05/01/2005 6:37:20 AM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
In a recent speech, President Bush suggested that diesel cars might be made eligible for similar income tax credits as hybrid cars, which are quickly turning into best sellers with long waiting lists.

Now, this would be a great idea. Add to that some kind of override of the California emission standards for diesels, and we could save a lot of fuel.

Modern diesels are efficient, powerful and clean. They're selling like hotcakes in Europe, but we don't see most of the really neat engines over here. BMW has a new twin-turbo diesel I-6 which makes 272 hp and 413 ft-lbs of torque. They put a particulate filter on it, to further clean up the emissions, allowing the 535d to meet Euro 4 standards.

31 posted on 05/01/2005 6:37:49 AM PDT by B Knotts (Viva il Papa!)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

Geesh! I guess the guys NYT have never driven on Rt 80 in northern NJ during rush hour. If your not driving at least 80 mph they'll drive over you!


32 posted on 05/01/2005 6:37:49 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (We will always remember.We will always be proud.We will always be prepared, so we may always be free)
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To: Koblenz

Just posting to say: LOVE YOUR TAGLINE!


33 posted on 05/01/2005 6:38:09 AM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: Sooth2222

That chart only works in a perfect world where all of our wages increased the same as inflation. If you account for all the downsizing and pay cuts that have taken place in the last 25 years we may be paying $5.00 or more per gallon(and I'm guessing here).


34 posted on 05/01/2005 6:38:23 AM PDT by Racer1
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

Synchronize traffic signals, THEN we MIGHT consider this.


35 posted on 05/01/2005 6:38:46 AM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (This tag line is temporarily closed for re-modeling)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
What maroons... the 55MPH speed limit went into effect when most cars got less than 10MPG.

Sheesh!!

36 posted on 05/01/2005 6:39:45 AM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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Here's how the conversations at work usually go:

Librat -"Boy! These gas prices! That Bush is sure one rotten SOB!"
Flagg -"Umm, what were you paying per gallon of gas in 2000 during Clinton's last year in The White House?"
Librat -"About seventy-four cents a gallon."
Flagg -"That's right. And now you're making up the difference."
Librat -"Wait a minute. Presidents can't influence gas prices."
Flagg -"Then, justify that first statement about Bush being rotten."


*crickets*


37 posted on 05/01/2005 6:41:32 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

Rising gas prices required businesses to pass the cost onto their comstomers. That leads to inflation. The best thing the government can do is decrease the tax on gasoline and deisel to keep the prices down for EVERYONE. This would help the public more than reducing income tax.


38 posted on 05/01/2005 6:43:04 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
From the article:
For example, driving at 10 miles an hour above the 65 miles-per-hour limit increases fuel consumption by 15 percent...

I have to wonder if this is an innocent typo (should have read '10 mph above the 55 mph limit') or a deliberate deception (comparing mileage driving at 75 versus 55)? Based on the source, I suspect the latter.

39 posted on 05/01/2005 6:43:44 AM PDT by Bob
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

55 mph speed limit?...Hell's Bells!...How will I get to work in the morning on time...in 25 mph freeway traffic??


40 posted on 05/01/2005 6:43:59 AM PDT by Route101
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