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AFP Names Sen. John F. Kerry "Investor of the Week" (Urges allowing Personal Accounts for ALL)
Americans For Prosperity (AFP) ^ | April 26, 2005 | News Release

Posted on 04/30/2005 10:59:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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This is pretty good. I haven't heard of Americasn For Prosperity (AFP) before, their mission statement is: "Advancing every individual's right to economic freedom and opportunity".

I think they chose Kerry "Investor of the Year", tongue-in-cheek. Their point is that if stocks and bonds and mutual funds are good enough investments for Kerry, he should allow all Americans to invest some of their money that way -- i. e. allow personal accounts.

I think Kerry came out strongly against Bush's proposal of personal accounts -- not a big surprise.

1 posted on 04/30/2005 10:59:39 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Investing, that's not for the "little people". That's what Kerry and crew think anyway.

Gosh darn, I hate rich liberals, I just despise them!


2 posted on 04/30/2005 11:24:08 PM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: FairOpinion

"Advancing every individual's right to economic freedom and opportunity". If that were true then they would have the SEC do away with the pattern daytrader law established in 2001 that allows anyone with over $25,000 in hard cash to trade stocks practically an unlimited time per week, while everyone else is limited to three per week which forces you to hold on for dear life when a stock dives. Anyone with over $25,000 on the other hand can get immediately out and short instead, not to mention have more leverage for manipulating that stock. And speaking of Kerry, maybe they can also explain to me why US senators do on average 12% better on the stock market than the rest of the country? Don`t we have laws against insider info? Or that doesn`t pertain to Democrats who can turn $1000 into $100,000?


3 posted on 04/30/2005 11:30:53 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver (ALL YOU BASE ARE BELONG TO US)
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To: FairOpinion
"Senator Kerry and his wife, Teresa, are to be congratulated on the fine job they've done investing their personal assets in very effective, diversified and profitable ways,"

Their personal assets? I thought Teresa was the one with the money, unless gigilos charge a fortune these days.

4 posted on 04/30/2005 11:35:02 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver (ALL YOU BASE ARE BELONG TO US)
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To: FairOpinion

In fairness, I don't think Kerry is opposed to that whole "social security plus" thing -- where individuals receive personal investment accounts on top of their current social security benefits; he just doesn't want current benefits to be any lower than they are right now. The main issue, which almost no one is talking about in the MSM, is that it's philosophically unjustifiable to take people's money in order to give it back to them later in life. To people like Kerry, freedom means "free from responsibility." To someone who has actually had to get by in the real world, freedom means "free to succeed and free to fail -- depending on one's own choices."


5 posted on 04/30/2005 11:37:07 PM PDT by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: FairOpinion

I've heard of them, AFP are definitely some of the good guys, they rock! This is great, nice job on someone's part, LOL. Thanks for posting it.


6 posted on 04/30/2005 11:40:58 PM PDT by TheSarce (Liberalism: The irrational, intolerant cult that dare not speak its name.)
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To: Gracey; The Bat Lady; dwills1964

AFP ping, great jab at Kerry and the left.


7 posted on 04/30/2005 11:47:41 PM PDT by TheSarce (Liberalism: The irrational, intolerant cult that dare not speak its name.)
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To: jocon307

One thing baffles me: why do some of the richest folks around support socialism ? Is it some sort of "Guevara syndrome" ?


8 posted on 04/30/2005 11:48:01 PM PDT by desidude_in_us (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: FairOpinion
["Senator Kerry and his wife, Teresa, are to be congratulated on the fine job they've done investing their personal assets in very effective, diversified and profitable ways," said Americans for Prosperity spokesman Ed Frank "Their retirement years promise to be very secure, thanks in large part to the power of long-term free-market investments. Of course, not all workers are as fortunate as Senator and Mrs. Heinz-Kerry, which is why it's so important to allow all Americans to invest a portion of their Social Security taxes in personal accounts."]



Baloney. Only smart people like Mrs. and Mr. Heinz-Kerry are wise enough to be allowed to handle money. Boobs and simpletons like us six-pack swilling yokels out here in flyover country need to continue to let our benevolent leaders hold onto our money for us during our working years and then give us back a portion of it when we retire. If this didn't happen we wouldn't have any money at all and would be living in cardboard boxes under a bridge because of our own incompetence at understanding the simple concept of setting aside a percentage of our income in a long term, low risk retirement fund.



/s
9 posted on 04/30/2005 11:49:26 PM PDT by spinestein (Do I really need the sarcasm tag?)
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To: desidude_in_us

[One thing baffles me: why do some of the richest folks around support socialism ?]


Notice that the laws they support only confiscate the EARNING of money through labor. They always exempt wealth that they've already accumulated, and investment income is not considered "labor" income and is taxed at a lower rate.


10 posted on 04/30/2005 11:53:45 PM PDT by spinestein (Don't Panic!!!)
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To: desidude_in_us

"...why do some of the richest folks around support socialism ?"

I really don't understand it. But I come closer to understanding it when I look at it through the lens of "elitism".

Plus, we must never forget how ignorant (in the worst sense of the word) most folks are. Even, maybe especially, the rich ones.


11 posted on 04/30/2005 11:54:06 PM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: spinestein
Notice that the laws they support only confiscate the EARNING of money through labor. They always exempt wealth that they've already accumulated, and investment income is not considered "labor" income and is taxed at a lower rate.

Interesting.. so, maybe thats why George Soros will always have Tax breaks regardless of who is in power, but he likes to fund people who tend to make aspiring rich folks folks poorer ?

So, technically Soros and Kerry will not support socialism in its entirety, for that would mean they too might've to give up their loot.. they are supporting a quasi-socialist policy to sustain their wealth and investments, while making others poorer... Thats more wicked than socialism itself !!

12 posted on 05/01/2005 12:06:48 AM PDT by desidude_in_us (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: desidude_in_us

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39f73bf22b78.htm


13 posted on 05/01/2005 12:09:40 AM PDT by Sir Gawain (Jeb Pilate and the Republican Congress: Stood by while someone died)
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I really don't understand it. But I come closer to understanding it when I look at it through the lens of "elitism". Plus, we must never forget how ignorant (in the worst sense of the word) most folks are. Even, maybe especially, the rich ones.

Thats what I call the "Guevara Syndrome".. trying to fancy themselves like the billionaire communist playboy - Che Guevara.

14 posted on 05/01/2005 12:09:42 AM PDT by desidude_in_us (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: Sir Gawain

Thanks !


15 posted on 05/01/2005 12:11:42 AM PDT by desidude_in_us (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: desidude_in_us

"Che Guevara.'

And did he not end up dead in the jungle? It should happen to the likes of them, wot would be our "betters".


16 posted on 05/01/2005 12:12:12 AM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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And did he not end up dead in the jungle? It should happen to the likes of them, wot would be our "betters".

He started out meaning well but got sucked into terrorism, communism and finally lost everything. His diagnosis was right (that the society in Latin America needed change) but his solution (communism and peasant revolution) was wrong and thankfully, he didnt live long enough to realize it.

17 posted on 05/01/2005 12:23:26 AM PDT by desidude_in_us (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: desidude_in_us

One thing baffles me: why do some of the richest folks around support socialism ? Is it some sort of "Guevara syndrome" ?

I'll take a stab at answering your question, based on some personal experience with some 'rich folks'. (a.) Because they have succeeded financially, or been born to people who succeeded financially, they actually, truly, deeply believe that they are better than other people. (b.) Ironically, the socialism they 'believe in' is for 'other people', not them because 'they' don't 'need' it because 'they' are better, as evidenced by their success (c.) From their lofty perch of superiority, they believe they can 'construct' a world (i.e. socialism) whereby all the 'other' people will be 'taken care of', thus accomplishing two things: (i.) 'They', the privileged few, thus 'prove' that they are 'better' people because of their benevelence, and (ii.) They never have to actually associate with 'those people'

Complicated, isn't it?


18 posted on 05/01/2005 12:44:24 AM PDT by hardworking (-O-U)
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To: desidude_in_us

Because someone has to buy all the stuff for the peasants.


19 posted on 05/01/2005 2:48:13 AM PDT by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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Well, if the Soviet Politburo was still around you could ask them.

Benevolent dictators. They want to be seen as "great father" while enjoying the perks of being wealthy. Maybe the best way to see it is through the eyes of the animals in "Animal Farm."


20 posted on 05/01/2005 4:12:05 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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