Posted on 04/30/2005 5:21:01 AM PDT by Founding Father
Bank of America insists it can't find slave profits in its past
April 30, 2005
BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter
Under fire from the City Council's champion for slave reparations, Bank of America stuck to its guns Friday: The bank has hired a researcher to dig deeper but has so far has uncovered no evidence that a predecessor bank invested in or profited from the slave trade.
To the contrary, Bank of America said its research suggests that the predecessor, Providence Bank, "distanced itself from and declined to support slavery-related activities." That's even though John Brown -- Providence Bank's founding president, director and shareholder -- was a well-known slave owner who arranged for the transportation of slaves.
Founded in 1791, Providence Bank is a predecessor of Fleet Boston, which was acquired by Bank of America last year.
"First, the research disclosed no evidence establishing that the Providence Bank had investments or profits from slavery. Second, there is no indication of the source of the funds used by Brown to purchase his 23 shares in the bank. Last, the evidence suggests that the bank, in fact, avoided slave-related activities of John Brown or any other bank customer," said the bank's attorney V. Duncan Johnson.
'We won't stop'
Ald. Dorothy Tillman (3rd) accused "arrogant" bank officials of providing "selective and fraudulent" information to a joint City Council committee.
Tillman said research conducted by her daughter at some of the same places Bank of America looked -- the Rhode Island Historical Society and Brown University Library -- has already produced evidence that Providence Bank made loans used to purchase ships that transported slaves.
"The whole reason the bank was founded was so that the merchants could have a bank for their money to go through. Their whole existence was slavery. They had no other existence," she said.
"They thought they could bring this lawyer in and lie and just say, 'Moses Brown [John's brother] was an abolitionist. You see, they were good guys.' The lawyer's job was to protect Bank of America -- not to get to the truth. And we won't stop until we get to the truth."
Finance Committee Chairman Edward M. Burke (14th) cautioned Tillman not to "toss around the words 'fraud' and 'misrepresentation.' "
"It is the opinion of the chair that there has been no fraudulent conduct on the part of these witnesses," he said.
Black, Jewish aldermen clash
Ald. Burton F. Natarus (42nd) also urged Tillman to take a deep breath -- prompting an uncomfortable clash between black and Jewish aldermen.
"Prior to the Civil War, you're going to find almost every one of these corporations were involved with the institution of slavery. You're going to find it, and no matter what you do, you can't hide it. But the problem is, how long are you going to badger them with it?" Natarus said.
That infuriated Tillman, who reminded Natarus that African-American aldermen had supported him in the threat to punish Swiss banks that ultimately resulted in the return to Holocaust victims of hundreds of millions of dollars in gold looted by conquering German armies.
"The Jewish community -- your community -- received reparations. What happened to them was wrong. And you were relentless in making sure that anybody and everybody who had anything to do with the Holocaust would be brought to justice . . . What we're saying is, we have a right to be repaid," Tillman said.
Ald. William Beavers (7th) added, "You want to know how long it's going to go on? It's going to go on as long as the Holocaust. The Holocaust is never going to end, and this is never going to end. So when we support you, you support us."
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I don't "want to discuss reparations". I want to REFUTE it. Certain segments of the African American population keep bringing it up. I think it's important that we always knock it right back down. I don't really think "reparations" is going anywhere. Although I hear there is an attempt to broaden the support-base by including Mexican Americans as "victims of colonization" and Asian Americans for some othe reason (forget the details).
The bottom line is: if you're of European decent (even if your great grandpa was a soldier in the Union Army), you gotta pay!
I think it was unAmerican to have my ancestors' city burned down and their property stolen and getting raped and murdered by Union Soldiers.
The California legislature was all set to pass a law to recompensate these people until they realized that they would end up having to give back most of Los Angeles county to the decendants of the Japanese-Americans who used to own it before it was taken in similar manner.
You mention one aspect of "the Mexican American thing".
I've read different versions of "inclusion".
One involves classing all decendants of Native Americans in both North and South America as "victims of colonialism" and apportioning "reparations" to them based on a) their country of origin and b) the supposed ties of that country to "US imperialism".
Of course the concept isn't going anywhere, for now. But the idea lingers on. The only bad guys in all of history are the Europeans who came to the Americas, including those (like my grandparents) who were landless peasants living in harsh conditions back "home".
As the great-great-grandson of a Union vet, I find the very idea of reparations insulting.
As the great-great-grandson of a Union vet, I find the very idea of reparations insulting.The idea is ridiculous beyond belief. All Americans ... red, white, black, brown, yellow... should be insulted by such a ridiculous idea.
I hope that was sarcasm.
I can't think of ever reading about any culture that DIDN'T practice slavery at one time or another (in ten thousand years of human civilization). That uncludes Africa, Europe, the Middle East, Asia, etc. It also include both North and South America.
BTW, the Africans sold into slavery in the period you mention (1500-1865) were captives taken from interior tribes that the Coastal African tribes didn't want to retain as their own slaves.
I was afraid someone would uncover that little overlooked fact.
BTW The equation of this with Holocaust reparations is spurious at best. Reparations are paid to survivors, not descendants of surviviors.
of course. ; ^)
Has Jesse Jackson yet called a news conference to "boycott" the bank until his Swiss account is a few decimal points heavier?
You're right, southern women LOVED getting raped by soldiers....
FIRGIT, HELL!! LOL
Actually, in 1864, a great many black soldiers saw action and died , most notably at Petersburg (in the Battle of the Crater), and at Fort Pillow, Tennessee and at Saltville, Virginia (where, in both cases, those that surrendered were massacred by their outraged Confederate captors). By the end of the Civil War, roughly 179,000 black men (10% of the Union Army) had served as soldiers in the U.S. Army and another 19,000 had served in the Navy. Nearly 40,000 black soldiers died over the course of the war-30,000 of infection or disease, and the rest in battle.
Hasn't this silliness dried up and blown away yet?
They're also doing their best to assist illegal aliens with wire transfers, home loans, etc.
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