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Catholic Church Withdraws Recognition of College That Plans to Honor Hillary Clinton
Earned Media ^ | 4/29/05

Posted on 04/29/2005 6:45:15 AM PDT by Libloather

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Bill Clinton (C) and his wife Hillary (L) greet Pope John Paul II in October 1995. 'The Holy Father was a beacon of light not just for Catholics, but for all people,' the Clintons said in a statement.(AFP/Luke Frazza)
1 posted on 04/29/2005 6:45:19 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: All; Canticle_of_Deborah; Gerard.P; vox_freedom; te lucis; donbosco74; Grey Ghost II; ...

ping


2 posted on 04/29/2005 6:47:58 AM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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Oh, this looks quite interesting! I do hope this sort of attitude catches on.


3 posted on 04/29/2005 6:50:38 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Libloather

It's a shame to see how liberalism infects even these institutions.


4 posted on 04/29/2005 6:52:14 AM PDT by JZelle
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I guess I hadn't considered Marymount Manhattan to be a catholic college for some time, but I am shocked to see Marist College listed. Is this accurate?

I work at a near by catholic college and we value our tradition of catholic higher education and heritage. We feel it makes us distinct in our tier and among our peer institutions. While the presence of members of our founding order will diminish over time, their mission is firmly embedded in the mission of our institution and resonates strongly among all levels of faculty, staff, administration and most importantly, our students.


5 posted on 04/29/2005 6:56:40 AM PDT by YankeeGirl (Certa bonum certamen)
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To: Libloather; murphE; Tantumergo; Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah
The three colleges previously declared no longer Catholic include Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York, and Nazareth College and Saint John Fisher College, both in Rochester, New York.

Saint John Fisher College declared no longer Catholic? How sad!


St. John Fisher, pray for us!

6 posted on 04/29/2005 6:58:22 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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>>>Oh, this looks quite interesting! I do hope this sort of attitude catches on.

If the president, who supports the ability to obtain an abortion in cases of rape and incest, were to speak at a Catholic college or university, would they lose their affiliation with the Church?


7 posted on 04/29/2005 7:00:15 AM PDT by NC28203
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He does?

I thought it was Laura that supported that, not the President.


8 posted on 04/29/2005 7:03:12 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Libloather

Good. You can't be pro-abortion and Catholic.


9 posted on 04/29/2005 7:04:17 AM PDT by tdewey10 (End elective abortion now.)
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10 posted on 04/29/2005 7:04:20 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Pyro7480
Makes you wonder when they'll get around to the rest of them, Notre Dame and good old Fr. McBrien comes to mind.
11 posted on 04/29/2005 7:06:53 AM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: Bigh4u2

From the Republican National Coalition for Life

PRESIDENT BUSH AND THE RIGHT TO LIFE
President Bush, despite his oft-stated desire to re-establish a "culture of life" in this country, nevertheless seems to be as conflicted on the life issues as a large portion of the population. For instance, his stated "pro-life" position is contradicted by his justification of abortion for babies conceived through rape or incest.

When the opportunity arose for him to exercise presidential leadership by prohibiting stem cell research on human embryos, each of whom is a living human being — a human subject entitled to protection from harmful scientific experimentation as called for in the Nuremberg Code of Medical Ethics — he instead established a policy allowing taxpayer-funding of experiments on a limited number of stem cell lines derived from embryos who were already dead prior to August 9, 2001 and prohibiting the use of federal funds for the killing of more human embryos for experimentation.


12 posted on 04/29/2005 7:06:56 AM PDT by NC28203
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I've never posted a link, but here is a url for

Ex Corde Ecclesiae
Apostolic Constitution on Catholic Universities

http://www.cin.org/jp2/excorde.html


13 posted on 04/29/2005 7:07:44 AM PDT by YankeeGirl (Certa bonum certamen)
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To: NC28203

Interesting.

Thanx!


14 posted on 04/29/2005 7:10:59 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: NC28203; Libloather
I believe there is a difference between allowing someone to speak who would not oppose an abortion in cases of rape or incest and choosing to honor "one of Congress' most outspoken and strident advocates of abortion."

Furthermore, they are addressing "a long history of secularization at Marymount Manhattan College." This wasn't a warning shot across the bow of the Roman Catholic Church on the part of Marymount Manhattan but their final, brazen act that declared the separation that the Church now acknowledges!
15 posted on 04/29/2005 7:18:07 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Libloather

Archbishop Egan just lept up in my estimation of him.


16 posted on 04/29/2005 7:31:56 AM PDT by dangus
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To: NC28203
If the president, who supports the ability to obtain an abortion in cases of rape and incest, were to speak at a Catholic college or university, would they lose their affiliation with the Church?

http://www.catholicmatch.com/pl/pages/community/articles/details.html?ra=1;id=159

Since abortion is the direct taking of an innocent human life, one may never deliberately have an abortion or assist another in doing so (Ex 20:13; CCC 2271). Of course, the situations you mention are extraordinarily difficult – such as when the pregnancy threatens the mother’s life, when a child is conceived as a result of rape or incest, or when the child is severely disabled. These hardships should not be minimized; they require a great deal of compassion. But as difficult and tragic as they may be, such circumstances do not justify killing an innocent human being.

A distinction, however, must be made between a direct abortion (i.e., the intentional killing of an unborn child) and an indirect abortion. An indirect abortion occurs when an unborn child’s death is an unintentional and indirect consequence of a necessary medical intervention to treat a dangerous and potentially life-threatening condition.

17 posted on 04/29/2005 7:33:20 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Libloather

"...not with a bang but a whimper."

These are deliberate and very brazen anti-Catholic psy-ops against the church. Planned and well thought out by anti-Catholic forces and sworn enemies of the church.

18 posted on 04/29/2005 7:40:43 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Saint John Fisher College declared no longer Catholic? How sad!

How sad indeed. My beloved Buffalo Bills run their training camp there. Will they have to change their name to Fisher College now? Might as well make a clean break with things religious. The secularization of America rumbles on...

19 posted on 04/29/2005 7:43:36 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Libloather
Signs of the College's Catholic identity have disappeared over time, even though until yesterday it preserved its official status as Catholic, possibly to avoid alienating Catholic alumni and donors.

This is sad. How many Catholic alumni will be left without an alma matter of which to be proud?

Liberals are a cancer to our religious institutions.

20 posted on 04/29/2005 8:06:43 AM PDT by george wythe
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