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Center-Left Republicanism's Collapse (Schwarzenegger's messageless moderation isn't selling.)
The American Prowler ^ | 4/29/2005 | George Neumayr

Posted on 04/28/2005 11:15:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 04/28/2005 11:15:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Good political lesson. Arnold has some political talent. Can he learn from his basic mistake?


2 posted on 04/28/2005 11:19:53 PM PDT by strategofr (One if by land, two if by sea, three if by the Internet)
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To: nickcarraway

Arnie is off with the pixies!

Thank God he can never be GOP candidate for the White House.


3 posted on 04/28/2005 11:24:20 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: strategofr

He's a RINO.


4 posted on 04/28/2005 11:25:03 PM PDT by karnage
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To: nickcarraway

must.. sleeep .. Bump for later.

Neumayr Bump


5 posted on 04/28/2005 11:28:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Lancey Howard; maryz; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan

George Neumayr Ping


6 posted on 04/28/2005 11:32:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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Good analysis. I like Arnie but he is governing like a movie star--if your last film was a flop, you move to something that works. That's not how you govern, because your last decision may be disliked at the moment but in the long run will show benefits.

Movie stars live by giving the public what it wants, even if years later everyone admits that "hit" wasn't so good. Politicians thrive by giving the people what they want whether they should have it or not.

But GOOD politicians define their political philosophy, and govern by it. If they get booted out, so be it. Arnie seems to be trying to keep his popularity high and he's failing, so why not just govern from the political right when, supposedly, that's what he liked about the Republican party in the first place?

7 posted on 04/28/2005 11:34:30 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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To: nickcarraway

That pretty much sums up the typical Democrat Party member.

8 posted on 04/28/2005 11:37:40 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Avenge my death)
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To: nickcarraway

He seems to be getting all these petitions going and on the ballot.
He's been very successful in the state so far.

I do think all politicians are hurt though with the price of a gallon of gas.


9 posted on 04/28/2005 11:43:58 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Schwarzenegger's centrism, in other words, is not neutralizing the Democrats but galvanizing them, signaling to them a weakness that they can exploit.

Once again, George absolutely nailed it. His admonition applies not only to Arnold, but to every other "moderate" (liberal) Republican.

10 posted on 04/28/2005 11:45:27 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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He's a RINO.

Ask the other side and he's also a DINO.

11 posted on 04/28/2005 11:48:16 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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The problem with California is that the champagne left is really conflicted in California, so they'll give bad approval ratings to everybody.

They hate Republicans for their insensitive fiscally responsible and pro economic growth policies because they think that their policies will harm minorities and the poor, which the champagne liberals treat almost like zoo animals, thinking they care about them but instead living in gated communities to keep them out.

Meanwhile they hate Democrats because they screw up the economy with rolling blackouts, etc, making it difficult to afford extra champagne to keep the champagne liberals at their standard of living even though they do what the Champagne liberals love: Dolling out welfare to minorites and the poor which ends up mostly helps public employees unions.


12 posted on 04/28/2005 11:59:02 PM PDT by Odyssey-x
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To: nickcarraway

Great article. Isn't Arnold up for re-election next year?

Hasta la vista, baby.


13 posted on 04/29/2005 12:05:25 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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If we wanted a RINO Governor, we would have elected a Democrat. Arnold talks a good game about cutting spending and holding the line on taxes but so far he's failed to deliver. It might have helped if he actually PRACTICED the fiscal conservatism he preaches. He's done a masterful job of alienating both liberals and conservatives without carrying through on his pledges. What happened to his reform agenda? He's caved on, you name it: pension reform, spending reform, merit pay reform, and redistricting reform. People don't believe he's serious. That's what happens when you don't have bedrock principles to fall back on to sustain you through hard times.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
14 posted on 04/29/2005 1:06:54 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: nickcarraway

Imagine that.


15 posted on 04/29/2005 1:38:58 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: goldstategop
Arnold talks a good game about cutting spending and holding the line on taxes but so far he's failed to deliver. It might have helped if he actually PRACTICED the fiscal conservatism he preaches.

There was a piece in National Review maybe five or six years ago that said there is no such thing in practice as a social liberal/fiscal conservative. They may run on that platform, but "something's gotta give" and it's always the fiscal conservative part!

16 posted on 04/29/2005 1:51:27 AM PDT by maryz
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Michael Hiltzik, LA Times, April 25, 2005
He's a Lot Weaker Than He Looks

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All that Schwarzenegger seems to enjoy is the opportunity to surround himself with attention and pomp — the trappings of political power, the appearances before huge crowds, the slavish interviews by Oprah and Katie. He's like one of those admirals in Gilbert and Sullivan, who adorn themselves in elaborate uniforms dripping with medals but don't know the first thing about going to sea. (And don't want to know.)

Everything else about governing seems to leave him bored. Perhaps the passage of his budget bonds and a workers' compensation reform early in his term convinced him that the game is easy. But the bonds didn't solve anything about the state budget, the workers' comp reform is a work in progress, and he's achieved nothing of note since then. His lack of understanding that politics is the art of building consensus and reaching compromise over the long term explains why he retreats into name-calling and petulant sulking when he doesn't get his way, a personality trait that never has been even remotely charming and has now become tiresome and self-destructive.

It's also becoming clear why he has never articulated a coherent philosophy of government — he doesn't have one. When George Stephanopoulos of ABC News flew to California earlier this year to delve into the governor's political principles, he was so nonplused at Schwarzenegger's expressions of complete indifference to major national issues — Social Security, immigration, judicial appointments — that he was reduced to soliciting the governor's Oscar picks. This is one of the three men "shaping the future of the Republican Party," as his wife, Maria Shriver, told Vanity Fair? (The others she mentioned are Rudolph Giuliani and John McCain.)

17 posted on 04/29/2005 2:03:13 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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Arnold Schwarzenegger urged the GOP to adopt more liberal stances

He wants us to cave in to their agenda? He should have run as a DemoRat if he likes their morals that much.


18 posted on 04/29/2005 2:15:20 AM PDT by garylmoore (God Bless you W, you have prevailed.)
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All of the names on the list are RINOs. Guiliani reduced crime and McCain restricted freedom of political speech. I don't see anything in the way of a great philosophy. Or could it be if you don't stand for something, people peeceive you stand for nothing? That's perhaps why RINOs find themselves in such a predicament these days. They're like the admirals in the Gilbert&Sullivan operas, buffeted to and fro by the political winds. And what was it the French author Victor Hugo once wrote about popularity? "The very crumbs of greatness!" Indeed.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
19 posted on 04/29/2005 2:18:02 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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If you move left, you only get the Left to hate you even more. They hate you already for not agreeing with them but they hate you even more for compromising in a vain effort to be liked.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
20 posted on 04/29/2005 2:19:39 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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