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Bush Holds News Conference [Proposes to turn social security into a poverty program]
The New York Times ^ | April 28, 2005 | DAVID STOUT

Posted on 04/28/2005 6:38:41 PM PDT by Brilliant

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To: Brilliant

Where was the "promise" you refer to written?


101 posted on 04/29/2005 4:51:36 AM PDT by Wayland
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To: PigRigger

A problem with the logic is that they are using income during working years as a surrogate for wealth. It doesn't work that way. Just because you had a high income during your working years doesn't mean you have a high wealth during your retirement years, particularly with the high taxes we are paying these days.


102 posted on 04/29/2005 4:52:03 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: skip_intro

Not government run, government approved.


103 posted on 04/29/2005 4:52:31 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: Wayland

It doesn't have to be written. If that's the way they are going to try to weasle out of this, then they better plan to face the guillotine.


104 posted on 04/29/2005 4:53:27 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: vishnu6

Wasn't SS supposed to be a safety net?


105 posted on 04/29/2005 4:55:55 AM PDT by Wayland
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To: RepublicMan4U

Is something wrong with passing on your life's savings and investments to your children? If not to them, where would you propose it go?


106 posted on 04/29/2005 4:59:19 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: Brilliant
"A problem with the logic is that they are using income during working years as a surrogate for wealth. It doesn't work that way. Just because you had a high income during your working years doesn't mean you have a high wealth during your retirement years, particularly with the high taxes we are paying these days."

Never said I agreed with what I stated, in fact I think it is a loser plan from the get go.

However, it doesn't matter what we think is right; Congress needs cash to fix this pyramid scheme and those who are earning higher incomes are going to pay for it. To Congress, whether higher income earners get their fair share is irrelevant; just so long as they take the poison without complaining is all that matters to them.
107 posted on 04/29/2005 4:59:36 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: ChefKeith

really? first, sorry about my small letters, I hope I don't lose credibility points for that. If you are genuinely concerned I suggest you listen to such things as last nights speech in it's entirety.


108 posted on 04/29/2005 5:02:21 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: goldstategop

If someone who works hard all his life lives in poverty when they retire they made some really bad choices!
If some people, I know them, were to take the money they spend every week on cigarettes, lottery tickets, knick knacks, cell phones, extra cable tv packages, vacations, the list could go on and INVESTED this money throughout their working lives they would be well off. It's about choices! This is America, the greatest nation the world has ever known, anyone that works all their lives here and is still poor, I have absolutely no pity for them and I for one would never deny them their well deserved consequences.


109 posted on 04/29/2005 5:09:40 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon

I have other thing to do besides listen to more double speak political BS from the Beltway crowd, they don't give a ratsa$$ about us. Never have - never will.

The text is already posted elsewhere on FR no need for me to do it here.


110 posted on 04/29/2005 5:17:17 AM PDT by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 28 more races to go...)
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To: ServesURight

How would you fund that?


111 posted on 04/29/2005 5:23:35 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Brilliant
I was in favor of the private accounts. My taxes go into a private account for me. What's wrong with that?

How do we fund the people who already put their money there?

112 posted on 04/29/2005 5:24:56 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: PigRigger

Giving cash to Congress to fix this is like throwing it into a pit. You'll never see it again, and social security will still go broke.

It's been tried before--over and over, in fact. By letting them increase taxes to fix this, we are simply putting more of our money at risk.


113 posted on 04/29/2005 5:26:00 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Raycpa

I've been working for 222 years now. I don't expect to ever see a dime of what I've already put in. If they enacted private accounts, at least I could keep what I earn on a going forward basis.


114 posted on 04/29/2005 5:27:30 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

End it. Don't mend it.


115 posted on 04/29/2005 5:27:49 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Raycpa

Ooooops. I mean 22 years. It only seems like 222 years.


116 posted on 04/29/2005 5:27:57 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: oldtimer
I went into the Sociable Securitee office and found it full of people who had paid zero into the so called fund, who were trying to get disability benefits.

Not possible.

117 posted on 04/29/2005 5:28:35 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Brilliant

What about the poor slob who is 59? Screw him cause you got yours?


118 posted on 04/29/2005 5:32:16 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

Someone's going to get screwed. The longer this problem festers, the more of us are going to get screwed.


119 posted on 04/29/2005 5:35:47 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: crz
And just how good are those treasury securities?

As good as the ability of the Federal Government to tax.

120 posted on 04/29/2005 5:36:39 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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