Posted on 04/28/2005 1:49:28 PM PDT by jb6
What's the bag limit for the ivory-billed woodpecker?
At that time Ziess ran an advertisement in Outdoor Photographer magazine and others about that. I've read that ornithologists believe that remote parts of Cuba may have some Ivory-billed woodpeckers.
Sounds like you need some decent binoculars!
Yep. I have an awesome variety of birds in my yard now, the latest include a sighting of a Baltimore Oriole, Rose-breasted Grossbeaks (at least 4 regulars now), a Bluebird who has become a regular at the birdbath, several Mockingbirds, Brown Thrashers (early in the mornings after it rains, usually), Hummers and just yesterday I saw several of what I have since learned are Kildeer (thanks to the bird thread), although those weren't in my yard. I am studying on enticements though.
ObPrincessBride: Well, there's a big difference between "mostly extinct" and "wholly extinct".
Yes evolution can do anything. Does someone have a sketch of the suspected ivory-bill woodpecker/human evolutionary link?
WASHINGTON - The ivory-billed woodpecker lives!
So maybe the tall tale that saved tens of thousands of acres of Carolina swamp from the timber barons wasn't so tall after all. Maybe Alex Sanders - credited with the boldest ruse in modern South Carolina political history - didn't make it all up.
Sanders, 66, now teaches political science in South Carolina after a long career as a circus performer, college president, chief justice of the South Carolina appeals court and Democratic nominee for the U.S. Senate.
But in 1971, Sanders was a maverick state legislator, desperate to stop the clear-cutting of 10,000 acres of the Santee Swamp, a pristine, wildlife-filled expanse about an hour northwest of Charleston.
The ivory-billed woodpecker, declared extinct decades before, would help him.
Sanders called a local television reporter and the South Atlantic regional director of the Audubon Society, who happened to have a recording of the defunct bird. He put them both in a boat and floated into the swamp, to play the call of the ivory-billed woodpecker into the mist.
The ivory-billed woodpecker called back.
Or at least that's what they said.
Sanders' story spread around the nation. Life magazine sent a team in search of the bird. An environmental movement ignited. The legislature banned logging in the Santee swamp. Congress later appropriated $50 million for the creation of the Congaree Swamp National Monument - South Carolina's first national park.
But was the bird there?
No one is quite sure. For years afterward, when asked whether the woodpecker really called back, Sanders would say: "He was there when we needed him."
Today, the ivory-billed woodpecker really is in Arkansas. There are pictures, video and many expert witnesses. The Department of the Interior announced Thursday a "multiyear, multimillion-dollar partnership effort to aid the rare bird's survival."
"It was no news to me," Sanders said from his Charleston office Thursday. " I knew it wasn't extinct all along."
Sanders - known as " Judge Sanders " in South Carolina - says this in his matter-of-fact drawl, as if the nation's top ornithologists and the secretary of the Interior are merely late to the woodpecker party.
But then - irrepressible storyteller that he is - Sanders reveals that he had a backup strategy in 1971, just in case the woodpecker plan didn't work.
"We were going to discover a train wreck in the swamp that took place during the Civil War," he said. "It was derailed taking munitions to the Confederate Army, which was trying to stave off the invasion by General Sherman."
Is that so, Judge Sanders ?
"We had the cannonballs all ready," he assured. "But we never needed them."
WASHINGTON - The ivory-billed woodpecker lives! (While God's Image is killed daily)
But in 1971, Sanders was a maverick state legislator, desperate to stop the clear-cutting of 10,000 acres of the Santee Swamp, a pristine, wildlife-filled expanse about an hour northwest of Charleston.
The ivory-billed woodpecker, declared extinct decades before, would help him.
I wonder if this "precious" bird can live behind the Big K at K-Mart as the so-called "endangered" Spotted Owl?
In 1973 two things happened:
1. The Endangered Species Act was enacted where animals, trees and scum in rain puddles became protected under law.
2. Roe vs. Wade where 9 mortals, allowed it to be made possible for Humanity to slaughter, burn, aspirate and sever Human Babies, created in God's image and likeness. Since then, humanity, and the USA, spiraled in a downward trend.
Touch a turtle egg or its nest, Canadian goose or a spotted OWL and get a yr. in jail and a $50K fine, and don't cut down certain trees or fill in that puddle! abort a child, get paid $750.00. And we wonder why there is NO respect for HUMAN life created in God's image.
This is why we need to inculcate a culture of life in our society in general and in churches and schools (starting in kindergarten) . People tend to think of children as disposable items.
A pro-life education Program
It's a grievous sin that animals and turtle eggs are afforded more protections and rights than a human fetus and baby created in God's Image with a soul.
Genesis 9:3
Every creature that is alive shall be yours to eat; I give them all to you as I did the green plants.
Man:
Kill the humans (abortion) and save the Bears, the spotted owls, the Canadian Geese and the whales and don't crack that turtle egg!!
You can get fined up to $10,000 for messing with those eggs and baby-killing physicians get paid government and private money $$$ to kill humans! Go figure.
The Endangered Species Act of 1973
The Endangered Species Act of 1973
ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT OF 1973
Penalties and Enforcement
The number of species listed (plants and animals, NOT humans) as threatened or endangered
Species Information
Threatened and Endangered Animals and Plants
10 FALLACIES IN THE ABORTION DEBATE
The Endangered Species Program
Page 4 Sec 3 (c)(8) don't crack those eggs, one might end the "life" of a bird, fish or turtle. I guess certain "mammals" (humans) do not apply.
Science and the ESA
The Govt. recognizes that a fertilized egg from an animal is "alive" and protected by LAW (The Endangered Species Act of 1973) and when an "alive" person created in God's image is growing and living in his mother, he's termed and given the moniker of just a blob of "unlive" protoplasm or tissue which can be aspirated if it's the mother's "choice" to do so with no protections under the 5th and 14th Amendments to the Constitution.
But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for EVERY careless word they have spoken."--Jesus (Matt. 12:36)
In Florida, women dying in bed have less rights than turtle eggs! (FL Law 370, US ESA of 1973)
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Quanta Cura
CONDEMNING CURRENT ERRORS
THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS CONDEMNED BY PIUS IX
I. PANTHEISM, NATURALISM AND ABSOLUTE RATIONALISM
William Jasper, author of "A New World Religion" describes the religion of the UN: "...a weird and diabolical convergence of New Age mysticism, pantheism, aboriginal animism atheism, communism, socialism, Luciferian occultism, apostate Christianity, Islam, Taoism, Buddhism, and Hinduism".
There's a bird thread on Free Republic? Where?
A better plan is to create a compromise. We'll set aside the swamps in Arkansas in exchange for permits to drill in ANWR and repeal of Clinton's executive order parks in Utah and Arizona. I love southern Utah as much as anyone does, but the clean coal that we could mine there would do more for both our economy and our ecology than preventing its mining does for the outdoor recreation value of Utah.
Bill
Another major discovery in AR was an honest politician.
Us too! The Piliated has been in our yard.
Ivory-billed is 3 inches larger than the Piliated.
And only a tad different in coloring.
Wonder how many acres of land are now going to be confisgated to protect this bird!
They are magnificent birds. Lucky you to have them in your yard. I don't want them confiscating anybody's land to save it. But on the other hand, hopefully it would not be necessary and we can have both the Ivory-Billed and property rights intact -- these things aren't always mutually exclusive. Of course, the future for this bird is pretty grim if they've only seen ONE of them -- hopefully, a second one, of opposite sex, is lurking in the trees somewhere, and takes a liking to this one.
Great point...nothing is free.
If coal is bad, oil is bad, nuclear is bad and wind mills kill the birds in the Nantucket Sound.........ad nauseum
Let them burn wood....oops back to the birds
There HAS to be more than one.
Otherwise this one wouldn't be. ;-)))
True, but I'm thinking Mom and Dad might have gone to that great primeval swamp in the sky, and junior might be flying around looking for companionship (hopefully not just platonic.) I guess we get back to that "which came first, the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker or the egg" conundrum. But to be honest with you, I have no idea what I am talking about here!
We are retired and living back on the homestead, bird watching and feeding are a great pass time, well, it has been for the two months we have been retired, don't know if it will all get boring after a while.
Just know that no sparrow falls from the sky without the Lord God Jehovah allowing it to happen!! ;-)))
I am of the opinion, that includes all birds.
And everything He created!
In other words...I'm not in the least worried about it! ;-)
He rules creation. We...the human race ignore His Hand on matters we have no clue about!LOL!!!
The end! ;-)
I hope to see one someday!!! I hope you do too!
God bless you and yours!!!
Hope you have a beautiful Saturday!!!
Maybe that is what we have around here. Whatever they are, they drum on the transformers and metal roofs.
Then too, it could be a Flicker, they also drum.
We had one that liked our gutter, sounded like a machine gun!
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