[conservativeconservationist]

I didn't mean to be flippant about the parallels between the Ivory and human suffering. I am surprised no one called me on it before you.

I do understand that the situations are completely different. Incomparable really. I was only trying to illustrate how illogical and tragic is the theory that adaptability equals right to life. I just wanted the perpetrators of this philosophy to stop and think what that would mean for humans in general. Whether it be the examples I mentioned or on a larger scale. Perhaps an overwhelming number of super human creatures show up and destroy our resources while at the same time hunting us for our scalps. We wouldn't fare well, more than likely. I was just trying to put the analogy in a context that most anyone could get. I mean, if they really believe that if something cannot adapt, it doesn't need to live, they must apply that to themselves or revise their theory a bit. My opinion.

I in no way meant to say or imply that there were any similarities between the bird and say 911 victims other than that they were victims of ambush; differing degrees certainly. I certainly wasn't saying that WTC victims were attacked because of resources they were using. I wasn't saying anything about the cause of the attack. I simply used those examples to try and put this on a human equation for some humans who can't seem to see things in any other terms.

Anyway, I am sorry to those I may have offended. I do not hold animal and human life in equal value.

[WFTR]

Thanks for the clarification on your original post. I think what I'm understanding you to say is that we shouldn't capriciously put stressors on native animal populations and particularly those populations that could be endangered. On that point, I think we agree. You and I might weigh costs and benefits somewhat differently when certain decisions require us to consider those stressors. Those decisions are always difficult.

Thanks for pinging me on the question about the traditional range for the IBWP. I was interested in the question as well.

I live in Louisiana and am on a listserve with some of the folks who've played a part in all of this work. I'll try to pass along any good gossip that I hear.

Thanks,
Bill