Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Time to Retire the Filibuster [NYT Editorial 1-1-95] (A must read)
US Congressional Record ^ | 1-1-1995 | ??

Posted on 04/27/2005 5:16:17 PM PDT by OXENinFLA

[FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES, JAN. 1, 1995]

Time to Retire the Filibuster

The U.S. Senate likes to call itself the world's greatest deliberative body. The greatest obstructive body is more like it. In the last season of Congress, the Republican minority invoked an endless string of filibusters to frustrate the will of the majority. This relentless abuse of a time-honored Senate tradition so disgusted Senator Tom Harkin, a Democrat from Iowa, that he is now willing to forgo easy retribution and drastically limit the filibuster. Hooray for him.

For years Senate filibusters--when they weren't conjuring up romantic images of Jimmy Stewart as Mr. Smith, passing out from exhaustion on the Senate floor--consisted mainly of negative feats of endurance. Senator Sam Ervin once spoke for 22 hours straight. Outrage over these tactics and their ability to bring Senate business to a halt led to the current so-called two-track system, whereby a senator can hold up one piece of legislation while other business goes on as usual.

The two-track system has been nearly as obstructive as the old rules. Under those rules, if the Senate could not muster the 60 votes necessary to end debate and bring a bill to a vote, someone had to be willing to continue the debate, in person, on the floor. That is no longer required. Even if the 60 votes are not achieved, debate stops and the Senate proceeds with other business. The measure is simply put on hold until the next cloture vote. In this way a bill can be stymied at any number of points along its legislative journey.

One unpleasant and unforeseen consequence has been to make the filibuster easy to invoke and painless to pursue. Once a rarely used tactic reserved for issues on which senators held passionate convictions, the filibuster has become the tool of the sore loser, dooming any measure that cannot command the 60 required votes.

Mr. Harkin, along with Senator Joseph Lieberman, a Connecticut Democrat, now proposes to make such obstruction harder. Mr. Harkin says reasonably that there must come a point in the process where the majority rules. This may not sit well with some of his Democratic colleagues. They are now perfectly positioned to exact revenge by frustrating the Republican agenda as efficiently as Republicans frustrated Democrats in 1994.

Admirably, Mr. Harkin says he does not want to do that. He proposes to change the rules so that if a vote for cloture fails to attract the necessary 60 votes, the number of votes needed to close off debate would be reduced by three in each subsequent vote. By the time the measure came to a fourth vote--with votes occurring no more frequently than every second day--cloture could be invoked with only a simple majority. Under the Harkin plan, minority members who feel passionately about a given measure could still hold it up, but not indefinitely.

Another set of reforms, more incremental but also useful, is proposed by George Mitchell, who is retiring as the Democratic majority leader. He wants to eat away at some of the more annoying kinds of brakes that can be applied to a measure along its legislative journey.

One example is the procedure for sending a measure to a conference committee with the House. Under current rules, unless the Senate consents unanimously to send a measure to conference, three separate motions can be required to move it along. This gives one senator the power to hold up a measure almost indefinitely. Mr. Mitchell would like to reduce the number of motions to one.

He would also like to limit the debate on a motion to two hours and count the time consumed by quorum calls against the debate time of a senator, thus encouraging senators to save their time for debating the substance of a measure rather than in obstruction. All of his suggestions seem reasonable, but his reforms would leave the filibuster essentially intact.

The Harkin plan, along with some of Mr. Mitchell's proposals, would go a long way toward making the Senate a more productive place to conduct the nation's business. Republicans surely dread the kind of obstructionism they themselves practiced during the last Congress. Now is the perfect moment for them to unite with like-minded Democrats to get rid of an archaic rule that frustrates democracy and serves no useful purpose.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: dhpl; filibuster; nyt; obstruction; ussenate
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-96 next last
To: The Great Yazoo
What have we proved? That the NYT are partisan hacks? Like we haven't known all along!

Go read what HARKIN said about it. LINK

21 posted on 04/27/2005 5:31:44 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA

Can you post a link to the actual material posted here? The one you supplied was no specific enough.

I'd LOVE to shove this in some dems faces, but I need to supply a link.


22 posted on 04/27/2005 5:32:29 PM PDT by SengirV
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA

This is too funny. I know many senators have reversed themselves, Byrd especially, but I didn't recall this Times editorial.

Somebody should send it to Limbaugh and Drudge.

My head was REALLY spinning until I noted the date. But still. Good grief.


23 posted on 04/27/2005 5:35:26 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA

Great find! I'd love to see their latest squeal about the nasty Republicans attempts to do away with the filibuster in only the narrow issue of confirming judges. It would be a hoot to compare and contrast. LOL!


24 posted on 04/27/2005 5:35:38 PM PDT by Arkie2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA

Has anyone emailed this (what is in the link)to Harkin?


25 posted on 04/27/2005 5:35:45 PM PDT by feedback doctor (God wants to write His law upon the hearts of all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA

Lefties always want it (and usually get it) both ways....


26 posted on 04/27/2005 5:36:36 PM PDT by clintonh8r (All liberals have one thing in common: Their mommies made the wrong choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SengirV

Go to this one.

"AMENDING PARAGRAPH 2 OF RULE XXV (Senate - January 04, 1995)"

Thomas links are funny....they expire after time.


27 posted on 04/27/2005 5:37:52 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA

BIG BTTT!!! ;^)


28 posted on 04/27/2005 5:38:11 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA

Ping to pile on and laugh later!


29 posted on 04/27/2005 5:43:18 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Politicians and diapers have one thing in common. They need changing often, and for the same reason!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA
Absolutely, utter, barenaked shilling partisanship for the Democratic Party by the New York Times on display for the whole world to see. Good work.

Hey, Pinch. You are sooooo busted.....

30 posted on 04/27/2005 5:44:18 PM PDT by Libertarian444
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA

"One unpleasant and unforeseen consequence has been to make the filibuster easy to invoke and painless to pursue. Once a rarely used tactic reserved for issues on which senators held passionate convictions, the filibuster has become the tool of the sore loser, dooming any measure that cannot command the 60 required votes."

First of all, great find. Kudos! Second, they are correct that the old-school all-nighter filibusters are a thing of the past. Third, they are obviously looking at this through the prism of a year after getting spanked. Fourth, since the new-school of filibustering now reigns the "easy to invoke and painless to pursue" line is also true. The main difference here is that they are bitching about an enumerated filibuster vs. an unenumerated and precedent-making beast.

It goes without saying that if one was to confront a liberal with this article namecalling would immediately follow.


31 posted on 04/27/2005 5:45:26 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Sober Idealism Equals Pragmatism")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA
Now THAT is good! Bill Frist could stand up there in the rotunda and give credit to Dungheap Harkin as the father of the "atomic option." Given his politics, he's more of an Oppenheimer or a Fuchs than an Einstein or Fermi, but why quibble?

(FWIW, some years ago, Dunga Dim co-wrote a dreary book on nuclear warfare, so it's all the more amusing).

Oh, the humanity!

32 posted on 04/27/2005 5:51:59 PM PDT by niteowl77 (I hate it when I partonize myself.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA
PING...


Bump--Thank you.
33 posted on 04/27/2005 5:54:12 PM PDT by Gucho
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Born Conservative
Can I get a Dittohead ping?

I'm sure you'll find this interesting.
34 posted on 04/27/2005 5:55:48 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA
The only real Sore Losers:


35 posted on 04/27/2005 6:02:44 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA

*snicker*

I just love moments like this :0)


36 posted on 04/27/2005 6:04:07 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: b4its2late; Recovering_Democrat; Alissa; Pan_Yans Wife; LADY J; mathluv; browardchad; cardinal4; ...

37 posted on 04/27/2005 6:05:03 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA; rintense; MJY1288; RedBloodedAmerican; twyn1; kitkat; justshe; ladyinred; lonestar; ...

Ping A Ling :0)


38 posted on 04/27/2005 6:05:45 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mo1; OXENinFLA

Mwahahahaaa! Shaking my head here....:^P


39 posted on 04/27/2005 6:12:39 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Blogs have a strangle hold on the MSM. The MSM is kicking out the windshield.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: OXENinFLA

Bump!


40 posted on 04/27/2005 6:15:06 PM PDT by PogySailor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-96 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson