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To: PAR35

Why don't you read the whole document, instead of just the NZ Herald write up? It's call Dominus Iesus and can be found on a google search or even an FR search.


55 posted on 04/27/2005 11:13:28 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (no electrons were harmed in the making of this tagline, well maybe just a few...)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Why don't you read the whole document, instead of just the NZ Herald write up?

"Therefore, in connection with the unicity and universality of the salvific mediation of Jesus Christ, the unicity of the Church founded by him must be firmly believed as a truth of Catholic faith. Just as there is one Christ, so there exists a single body of Christ, a single Bride of Christ: “a single Catholic and apostolic Church” "

"The Catholic faithful are required to profess that there is an historical continuity — rooted in the apostolic succession53 — between the Church founded by Christ and the Catholic Church: “This is the single Church of Christ... which our Saviour, after his resurrection, entrusted to Peter's pastoral care (cf. Jn 21:17), commissioning him and the other Apostles to extend and rule her (cf. Mt 28:18ff.), erected for all ages as ‘the pillar and mainstay of the truth' (1 Tim 3:15). This Church, constituted and organized as a society in the present world, subsists in [subsistit in] the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him”.With the expression subsistit in, the Second Vatican Council sought to harmonize two doctrinal statements: on the one hand, that the Church of Christ, despite the divisions which exist among Christians, continues to exist fully only in the Catholic Church, and on the other hand, that “outside of her structure, many elements can be found of sanctification and truth”,55 that is, in those Churches and ecclesial communities which are not yet in full communion with the Catholic Church.56 But with respect to these, it needs to be stated that “they derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church”."

"On the other hand, the ecclesial communities which have not preserved the valid Episcopate and the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic mystery,61 are not Churches in the proper sense;"

That one? So Catholics say Baptists and Presbyterians don't belong to a true church. Don't get offended if we return the favor. After all, good Presbyterians and reformed Baptists aren't permitted to marry Catholics.

70 posted on 04/27/2005 11:31:12 AM PDT by PAR35
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