Posted on 04/27/2005 8:37:54 AM PDT by Paloma_55
The Republican leaders in the Senate do not have to make the false choice between endless toleration of Democratic filibusters that enfeeble their majority and the so-called nuclear option a ruling that filibusters of judicial nominations are unconstitutional which will set off partisan wrangling for the balance of the Bush tenure.
It is absurd to try to tell the American people why filibusters of judicial nominations violate the Constitution while those of presidential nonjudicial appointments and of regular legislation do not. The American people are going to see the denial of the right of unlimited debate as the equivalent of FDRs court-packing plan, which doomed the second term of his presidency to utter failure (he had a pretty good third term, winning the war).
The better way to proceed is to make the filibuster radioactive politically by letting the Democrats talk themselves to death. Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves by their vocal cords.
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One small correction...it's "cloture" vote, not "closure", Toesucker...
I disagree with this premise. There is nothing in the constituion about a supermajority being needed to passage of appointments, thus, filibustering appointments of any kind is unconstitutional. And if Republicans are afraid that this means Dems will be able to push through liberal judges if they lose control...well, don't lose control! Fact is, when they were in the majority, they did!
Both parties need to realize that this is why we have elections. If the Dems don't like the Republican majority appointing "conservative" judges, then they had better started winning more elections. Meanwhile, the people have spoken at the ballot box.
Hell, yes. Let them BS and talk,and talk,etc..that's
all the likes of Kerry, Druban, Schmucker, (Schumer),
Kennedy..and the biggest one...Dodd... it is downtight disgusting to hear him talk like he
is a rational person....only guy in the Senate with
any integrity for Dems is Liebermann...and he is the
same vote ..90% of time. Jake
Save the traditional filibuster.
I see C-Span, from time to time.
It would be great, to see Senator Jefferson Smith
filibustering something or another.
I WANT to see a REAL filibuster.
Most of the Pubbies are just wimps and dweebs (Voinovich). Remember the story of the intern yesterday who complained about being hit on all the time. The Pubbies want to just keep things light and breezy, never taking much of a stand so as not to jeopordize their seats in Congress. A lost seat and it's back to the real world- WITHOUT all the babes!
both sides got together and changed the rules so they could keep the power of the power of the filibuster without having to actually do the physical act of maintaining the control of the floor for 24 hours a day and seven days a week like a real filibuster requires.
In a real filibuster both sides had to remain close by in case of a break. They couldn't leave and go to their dinner parties and cocktail lounges and Mistresses.
They made it convenient. Hence you have one side abusing it.It shouldn't be done away with but it should never have been made easy to do.
It should have been left like it was a tough grueling thing that required both sides to remain at their post 24 hours a day.
How long do you think Teddy could stay away from his bottle or for that matter any of these lazy never had a real job people on both sides would inconvenience themselves over a trivial issue.
The Republicans don't want to go back to a real filibuster anymore than the Democrats and the Democrats know it.
Once again the Democrats have called the Republicans hand with a strong bluff. If the past gives any indication of a response the Republicans will fold. The Democrats know that to.
If the Republicans are ever going to govern even while they are in the majority they are going to have to call the Democrats hand and prove to them they are in charge.
This is the Republicans last bite at the apple, at least as far as I'm concerned .
We've given them everything they have asked for both houses and the presidency and over ten years to do something to stop the rot and decay brought on by liberal politic ans and activists judges.
If they can't produce now they never will and we need to waste our vote somewhere else.
No NO!
Not YOU...I meant well-paid political operative Dick "Toesucker" Morris...
I am assuming you know why freepers call him that.
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