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To: Andrew LB
I've shot one [Mini 14] and my groupings started to really faulter after 100 yards, especially since i was using run of the mill ammo and not hand loads.

Part of the reason for that has to do with the gas operation system the Mini 14 employs. It has a floating piston attached to a recoil arm that seats in a fixed gas cylinder inside the forend at the front of the stock. Gas is bleed off the barrel into the fixed cylinder and forces the floating piston out of the cylinder. When the hot gas vents into the forend it heats the underside of the barrel diferentially from the top of the barrel. That causes the barrel to "warp" slightly from the heat.

At close ranges, it means nothing. Out past 100 yards the warping causes the point of aim to shift as the weapon heats from use. This is bad for accuacy. The advantage of the system is that it works and it works all the time. After the weapon heats totally, the point of aim changes again. It can be annoying.

94 posted on 04/26/2005 2:41:28 PM PDT by Dogrobber
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To: Dogrobber

Ahh... excellent information you have there. I'm not too knowledgeable about semi-automatic rifles. All mine are bolt action hunting rifles.

I am in the market for a Springfield M1A soon. (civilian M-14) Such a nice rifle.


101 posted on 04/26/2005 3:35:30 PM PDT by Andrew LB (Another solder in the fight against liberalism.)
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To: Dogrobber

I think you described an M1A or M14. The gas cylinder has a gas pipe attached and it doesn't move. The operating rod has a block in the front that the pipe fits into. The gases push the operating rod to the rear. It has a spring return to chamber the round. The system is identical to the M1 Carbine. Heating is the problem as you mentioned but I also think Ruger makes horrible Mini barrels.
If you really want to see horrible groups, tighten those 10-32 screws on the gas cylinder.


110 posted on 04/26/2005 4:14:42 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Dogrobber
The standard gas block on the mini-14 pushes too much gas into the piston. There is an adjustable after market block that just bolts in place of the original. A simple screw adjustment allows you to reduce the gas flow to the minimum necessary to operate the action. Properly adjusted, it will drop the brass at your feet instead of flinging into the next county. It is much easier on the op rod too.
116 posted on 04/26/2005 5:40:04 PM PDT by Myrddin
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