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To: RS
You make it sound so pure and so simple. Yet 'islamic scholars' spend an entire lifetime interpreting this hogwash, filled with bits and pieces of every belief system that came before it, a toilet-paper theology based upon plagiarism from the Original Testament, a little Christianity, some Babylonian lore and astrology, a remnant of ancient arabic stone and planetary worship. 'There shall be no compulsion in religion.' LOL! Tell that to the indigenous millions islam has wiped out since mohammad personally took part in the decapitation of 800 men at Medina. Tell that to the dead in Sudan, the Christians massacred by the muslim Turks, tell that to the 40 Christians now being held in Saudi Arabia. "According to Islamic doctrine, Muhammad is the Seal of the Prophets, meaning that he is the last prophet as well as the final revelation of Allah to humankind. Since Muhammad is the Seal of the Prophets, there can be no further development in any judicial matters where the Qur'an and Sunnah provide guidance. Consequently, the Qur'an enshrines the tribal governance of 7th century Arabia into all law for all nations for all time. Sunnah "The second source of Shari'a law is the Sunnah of Muhammad. The Sunnah is the rule of law that is found in the ancient traditions of Muhammad's sayings and behavior. Sunnah means "a normative way of acting, conduct, practice, usage, rule, course, institution and behaviour."4 The hadith (plural, ahadith) is a written record of the Sunnah of Muhammad. Ahmad Hasan wrote, "In fact hadith is the narration of the sayings, doings, and tacit approvals of the Prophet (peace be on him), while sunnah is the rule of law conveyed through the hadith. Hadith is a vehicle which conveys the sunnah of the Prophet. Hence one hadith may contain many sunnahs. Here sunnah means rule of law, practice, or model conduct of the Prophet (peace be on him), which is contained in a hadith.5 "The six major hadith collections are Sahih Al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Sunan Abu Dawud, Sunan At-Tirmidhi, Sunan An-Nisa'i, and Sunan Ibn Majah. These collections are extensive works that preserve the details of the conduct and sayings of Muhammad. It can be rightly said that the ahadith contribute more to Islamic ideology than the Qur'an itself. So, they are vital sources to understand Islam. "The Qur'an states that Muhammad is "a beautiful pattern (of conduct)." As a result, Muslims believe that Muhammad is the ideal prototype of a perfect man, and Muslims look to his sayings and behavior for guidance in their day-to-day lives. Muslims believe that all hope in Allah and the Final day finds its answer in Muhammad. For a Muslim, Muhammad's sayings and conduct sweep aside the light of reason, conscience, and nature as guides for human conduct. "Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah. Sura Al-Ahzab 33:21 (Yusuf Ali's translation) áóÞóÏú ßóÇäó áóßõãú Ýöí ÑóÓõæáö Çááøóåö ÃõÓúæóÉñ ÍóÓóäóÉñ áøöãóä ßóÇäó íóÑúÌõæ Çááøóåó æóÇáúíóæúãó ÇáúÂÎöÑó æóÐóßóÑó Çááøóåó ßóËöíÑðÇ. ÓæÑÉ ÇáÃÍÒÇÈ ٣٣: ٢١ "Since the hadithic literature records the life and sayings of Muhammad, it provides the foundation for Shari'a law and Islamic ideology. Without a study of the ahadith, it is impossible to have an accurate understanding of Islam and its laws. This later thought can hardly be overstated. Too often, when Westerners want to learn about Islam, they only study the Qur'an, and they ignore the more informative ahadith. http://muhammadanism.org/default.htm Sorry about the format, I don't know how to correct it. But really, RS, don't you think it's finally time you read the Biography of the 'Prophet'? Shouldn't you at least be interested enough in the 'religion' you are apologising for, to investigate the life of the horrid, filthy, lying, murdering scum that gave it birth? Hmmmmm?
96 posted on 04/27/2005 5:40:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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To: Fred Nerks
"'There shall be no compulsion in religion.' LOL!

Obviously you realize that if they are not following this, then they are not following the law as set down in the Koran.

You should also know by now that I couldn't care less if the Koran is "true" or not, nor do I care who wrote it.
The Koran says what it says, and according to translations I have found it says "There shall be no compulsion in religion".
Therefore anyone who thinks there SHOULD be compulsion in religion is not following the law as laid out in the Koran.

Not very hard logic to follow here -


It could very well be a matter like the Christians who allow their women to sing or preach in church, when the Bible specifically says women are to remain silent in church. (1 Corinthians 14:33) - When it's not convenient, the law gets ignored .... but that dosen't make it go away
102 posted on 04/27/2005 6:14:58 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: Fred Nerks; RS

I see that filibustering is now allowed in Australia, eh?


114 posted on 04/27/2005 7:10:21 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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