Posted on 04/26/2005 5:02:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Okay, I'm back. Checking the "black" box on an application isn't a help either, but there are many success stories and many more to come as people keep an open dialogue. I don't think Tiger was using that label in an attempt to segregate himself from the black community, but rather as a way to honor all of his ancestry. Our society is obessed to labels and the superficial. But hey, white people, your population is shrinking. (due to population growth issues and immigration) There may come a day in the U.S. when names like Buffy and Janet on a resume are a detriment instead of an advantage....
Shaquille O'Neal, Condoleeza Rice and Yo Yo Ma seem to have achieved quite well.....in spite of (or because) of their names.
It's what you do with your name that counts...
...make it count.
I don't disagree, but if you were offered a rose variety, would you prefer the variety called "Queen's Honor" or the one called "Horse Vomit" if they both looked and smelled the same???
I think "Buffy" already is!!!
Unless it's a job at a strip club!!
;-)
Good morning.
"Where's Dad?"
LOL!!! Oh, my sides hurt.
Michael Frazier
LoL, I'm stuck in the 80's
Check on back on the "mutant" child in 10 years. She'll be smoking crack, have an arrest record a mile long, and headed for the gurney and needle! None of my five daughters ever behaved that way, nor did I or my brothers. If they had, they would have needed a skin transplant where they sat down!
"It is a shame they couldn't have contacted the mother before the police arrived."
From what I read when the story first hit they did contact her at 2 something PM and she said she couldn't make it till after 3PM.
First, could I pleeeeease have two minutes in a private room with this child. Bet she wouldn't "act out" for me again.
As for the mother-it is obvious that she has created a monster that even she can't stand to be around. "I ain't gonna come git her till after 3:00", namely, until I HAVE to come get her at the regular dismissal time.
As to the transfer, it isn't always so easy to send a child to another school. (I pity the school that she would be tranferred to (pushed off on). Maybe mother was demanding a tranfer to a school that was full, or that didn't meet the needs of the child (like an advanced pilot school). Wouldn't surprise me at all if mother was taking advantage of the situation and trying to get her in a school that was the most sought after in the district (or something like that).
VERY FRUSTRATING SITUATION! I feel bad for any "well behaved" students who are actually in school to learn.
The situation has been building for years and has reached the point where no one is allowed to be in charge.
Sounds reasonable enough to me.
...but per your last post, please don't go and malign other positions because of race.....
If population growth is a problem, it certainly isn't just a white thing...
..it's an across the board thing, having murdered over 40 million of our babies in the womb, black, white, and all colors.
And FWIW, Buffy, Muffy, Cissy, River, Rainbow and Ectasy are surely already detriments on a job application.
You said: Okay, I'm back. Checking the "black" box on an application isn't a help either, but there are many success stories and many more to come as people keep an open dialogue.
I don't think we disagree, really. We celebrate those who overcome these hurdles. People like Martin Luther King and Jackie Robinson come to mind (note THEIR names). My children will have to overcome the fact that their dad is a lawyer (hey, I do bank representation, not criminal defense of personal injury work). I had to overcome the fact that my family growing up was pretty poor, my mother divorced when it was much less fashionable, etc. It would have been much easier had my background been different. My name happens to be a little odd, too (Bowen). My point is that some of these names create additional obstacles for children. The question of whether it is right or wrong is secondary. And, for the record, the name Buffy ain't gonna help a girl get into the board room, now or ever. She may get in, but it will be despite her name, not because of it. Someday I hope Kennedy carries the same stigma.
"I did think of Condoleeza, actually. Interestingly, her name DOES mean something, in Italian, I believe."
And it's still a very weird name.
Many of the names you're talking about (although not all) ALSO mean something, but they have an African origin (I have no idea whether the name in this case means something). They are real names -- or at least real words -- in Africa.
MINO
On the other hand, the teachers weren't allowed to touch the child, and she did ultimately start swinging and climbing on things. I don't know what they could have done but call the police, and I don't know what the police could have done but bind her. She was going to hurt herself, if nothing else.
And I'm suspicious of the mother's mothering, too, but she distinctly said she couldn't come until 3:15 because she didn't get off work until 3:00, and that washes with me. And, as I said up front, I was unimpressed with the child's tantrum until she was an hour or so in to it. Seemed like pretty ordinary sulky five-year-old behavior to me.
On the whole, I think I'm going to save my outrage for something else.
LOL
Unfortunately, after 50 or so years of churning out lawyers, the chances now are that your teacher's effective method would cost her her job and her school system moocho $$$.
Hey, what-her-name, the blonde gal, named her kid "Apple".
This is fruit-centric, and discriminates against honest vegetables!
Ru-Barb would have been better!
You said: Many of the names you're talking about (although not all) ALSO mean something, but they have an African origin (I have no idea whether the name in this case means something). They are real names -- or at least real words -- in Africa.
I doubt that most of these names have any African meaning. Several years ago I was visiting my wife at the pharmacy where she worked at the time, and as my wife was trying to verify a woman's daughter's name, an "ethnic" name, for the prescription she was filling, the mother enthusiastically regaled us with names she was able to "make up" for her and her friends' children. This, of course, is her right. And names shouldn't create obstacles to success, but you think my former student (I used to teach high school) John Dick didn't have problems in life, you are kidding yourself.
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