[Clemenza]

As one small example, a study published last year indicated that most of the black alumni of Harvard were from either the West Indies or Africa, or were the children of West Indian or African immigrants. These people are the same race as American blacks, who greatly outnumber either or both.

Take a wild guess as to where most of the black students that I met at U of C (yes there are some among the Asians and whites despite what Jesse has said in the past) were from or where their parents were from.

The smartest ones, btw, had parents from Trinidad.

[cyborg]

I feel sorry for black American boys. No one expects anything from them except a spot in the future work release program. Otherwise, yes many black West Indians I've known have attended ivy league schools in this country and abroad. Thomas Sowell is right on with this piece. I always find myself getting unnaturally thrilled whenever I meet a black American with a mind of their own and I don't mean politically speaking either.

[glorgau]

As a counterpoint, I'm right now cleaning up code written by a black guy that grew up in the Chicago suburbs and went to MIT. Smart guy, but his coding style sucked. ;-)

[cyborg]

Speaking of red neck culture.. the closest thing I can think of is all the kids in Levittown who think all they're cut out to be in life are cops and firemen and that's it. They're going to go to Nassau College and whatever else well hey... even white people have their own ghetto fabulous living.