Disciplined Administrator Speaks Out On Alleged Assault (Mifflin H.S., Columbus)

WCMH-TV Columbus, Ohio ^ | April 25, 2005

[EricT.]

Beck is mostly angered by the weaselly answers the Mayor of Columbus gave him on his show. The mayor was scheduled to call in, but didn't actually call until two days later when his staff heard Beck absolutely skewering him about it. His attitude was just reprehensible. The worst part is that he's running for governor.

[joesbucks]

I am no fan of Coleman. But, his responses were tempered and correct. And while he can certainly influence the school board through his leadership he cannot demand or enact.

Beck was looking for outrage. It was the Kitty Dukakis question. And yes, Beck questioned Coleman's manhood. The questions were loaded and not really seeking the facts of the matter which is it is now in police hands. Pitchforks and torches is what Beck was looking for. That accomplishes nothing. A mob mentality isn't what is needed. The changes in policy with regard to how to report and handle these types of issues can be changed and should be. However, sadly what happened (the violation of the girl) is going to happen. That's a problem with society, not policy. How the school reports this to the police is not going to make the violation go away or stop a future violation. While maybe not always a forced act, these acts occur even at the best schools, including some of the best private secular and church sponsored schools. This is what our society is teaching these young folks. The notion is oral sex doesnt' cause pregnancy and doesn't cause STD and does sexually satisfy. It's popular now among our young.

The outrage has been improperly focused. The outrage should be on the perpetrators and their parents.

We don't know all the details of what was said and how it was handled. We know that elements certainly were mishandled. We are also dealing with a distraught father, who probably has emotion guiding this rather than fact or reason. I would be emotional too if it were my daughter. But the fact remains, emotion isn't fact and doesn't allow us to best deal with the circumstances to assure that the likilhood of something like this happening again doesn't happen.

Beck's involvement is as much showmanship as it is concern.

[logarock]

Yes I to grew up outside Columbus in a small town New Albany. Its claim to fame was the Road Sainte motorcycle club back in the day. The problem at Mifflin High (I attended South Mifflin elementary before moving out a bit further) is the race ticket. Glenn Beck did touch on this some what. He Pointed out that Rev Al was down covering the case of the small black girl being handcuffed but of course had noting to say about Mifflin. The Girl was white, most don’t know this.

The big story that Columbus Schools have been ignoring because its so run of the mill, is the amount of general abuse white students take from black students in areas were a few whites still go to school in areas now predominantly black.


I now from were I speak because I ended up back in Columbus. My daughter attended Columbus Public until graduating. She had a black girl bring scissors on the bus once and cut a piece of here hair off. She cant count the times she was called a “White Bitch”. I could go on. The stories I’ve heard are numbers.

My point is that blacks have developed their own brand of raciest tendencies. They sure as hell don’t want this published as a racial incident. Whitey may go off one of these days. Its interesting that a 100 year old story about a Waco lynching has been resurrected by blacks within the last few days. They want Waco to address this issue after all this time. The Mifflin story has struck a nerve, so they travel back in time. The are the ones these days who need to move forward and admit that they turn a deaf ear to white pleas for justice and fairness.

[joesbucks]

I wasn't aware of the racial makeup of the participants. I figured it was black on black. I just didn't know.

I grew up in Dublin when it had nothing but a traffic signal at each end of the bridge over the Scioto. The only commerce was the Pure Oil station on one corner and a Phillips 66 on the other. Oh, and Bash recreation. And I remember when New Albany had the motorcycle club and was considered something of a hick area. My, now times have changed. I cannot afford to live in either place.

The problem with Columbus schools is deeper than the bad decisions of the school administration. It's going to take more than outrage to fix the problems.

I heard on a christian radio station today a guy talking about needing to instill christianity back in the schools to turn them around. A caller got on and asked if the host could say with certainty that sexual contact doesn't happen at christian schools. The host answered he couldn't say with certainty that sexual contact doesnt' happen at christian schools. Maybe not as bad as Mifflin, but then again christian schools can be selective in who attends and the public schools must take all and deal with behavioral and other disabilities. But when a host of a christian radio show cannot say with certainty that sexual contact doesn't happen at christian schools, then the problem isn't the school as much as it is with society. Plus when your child attends christian schools, you sign a waiver saying that you will not seek legal action against the schools or involve the schools in court action. That may be keeping a lid on some of the stuff that goes on at christian schools. Niether Mike Coleman or Glenn Beck are going to solve the problem in the contemporary school, christian or private. And grandstanding isn't going to help in finding a solution either.

[logarock]

Yes there is plenty that goes on in Christian schools. I attended a large Baptist university for a few years and they had their “outsiders” there.

I listened carefully to Glenn Beck and he did make several comments along the racial lines but they were rather a side bar sort of thing. I do know if some white boys had done this to a black girl it would be presented along racial lines. It is a factor that is boiling on the side of this thing here in Columbus that isn’t fully understood at large just because no one has come out and mentioned it.

I don’t know how it is elsewhere but the blacks around here have developed a strong but subtle attitude about such things. During the ice and snow storms here a few months back it was well known that Colman made sure the roads in the black areas were cleared first. He is just another politician in so many things even attacking a black conservative Blackwell saying he was in bed with Beck when the man may have had nothing to do with Becks interest in the thing.

The Columbus public school systems allow muslins to use school facilities for functions. My nephew accidentally opened the wrong door to one of these at school and was told by a faculty member to get out because he was white. A few years back a man was hired as superintend who was white. The man had some good credentials and a plan for the system. We was beset upon in a rather vicious campaign by blacks and so resigned. He then went out to Santa Barbra School systems as head super. That’s what kind of credentials he had. I could go on, but suffice it to say that the attempted cover-up of the Mifflin issue was in a large part racially related.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Now you are getting close to the real issue, 80% of Black children are born Out of Wedlock. OOWs are a social disaster everywhere they are encountered and had destroyed the public school systems of the major cities. It is particularly bad when Momma is a total lunatic as well. And "Daddy" he in jail.

[logarock]

Oh yes! They are all about keeping things in the flow. Do you listen to Steve Cannon? They let it fly on there from time to time. Did anyone bring up the race issue per say? The girl was white and we know what would happen if the case were reversed. Whites have become so weak toward protecting there own. We could take a lesson from blacks here.

[joesbucks]

You're speaking of Ron Ethridge. Ron passed away several years ago. Ron's task was to cut cost from the district and he did a pretty good job at that. His role not only in Columbus but virtually most school systems that hired him was to do that. He was never a long term person in a district.

[joesbucks]

Yes, out of wedlock children are a problem. But just as much of a problem is two parent families that are at war with the school system. They won't allow for any punishment for their children, they won't accept constructive criticism on their children and they are vocal in their resistance to the school.

I'm not advocating rolling over to the schools. Far from it. But their are fights to fight and sometimes you need to hear some straight talk about your precious child.

i just heard to people today say they would never let the school discipline their child. And they weren't talking corporatl punishment and they weren't black out of wedlock mothers.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Generally it is not the child with two parents who creates the havoc and causes the mayhem in schools. It can happen but the vast majority of problems comes from the OOWs.

However the sissification of America certainly does not help.

[joesbucks]

That may be true, but it seems with the over masculization prior to the sissification held just as many problems, just in a different way. I held my ground with my wife as she spoiled our only child. And the end result was a screwed up kid and broken family as she folded the tent when he left the home for adulthood.

Someplace there 's a workable middle.

[logarock]

Yes thsts the man. They beat up on him here if you remember.