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Diaperless Babies Seen As Earth-Friendly Solution (Enviro-wacko alert)
CNSNews.com ^ | 4/22/05 | Marc Morano

Posted on 04/25/2005 7:28:34 AM PDT by jalisco555

(CNSNews.com) - As environmentalists celebrate the 34th annual Earth Day, some in the green movement are now advocating "diaper-free" babies to help save the planet.

Citing concerns about plastic disposable diapers clogging landfills and the amount of washing and detergents that cloth diapers require, many environmentalists are taking a page from tribal cultures and seeking to eliminate the use of the baby diapers altogether.

The green movement is now promoting diaperless babies as a "retro, cutting-edge, environmentally friendly scheme" to mothers throughout the industrialized world.

The green movement already has declared war on the modern flush toilet, declaring it an "environmental disaster," and has instead pushed waterless "dry" toilets as an earth-friendly solution.

Former Vice President Al Gore joined the board of a waterless urinal company late last year to further the dry toilet cause and to help avert what many environmentalists believe is a looming international water crisis.

"There is a way to have a baby and NOT use diapers," says one website advocating diaperless babies. Parents are urged to get in tune with their infant's body signals and hold babies over toilets, buckets and shrubbery or any other convenient receptacle when nature calls.

One advocate suggests bringing a "tight-lidded bucket" along to serve as a waste receptacle when mothers take their babies out in public.

'Primitive worship'

But Robert Bidinotto, publisher of ecoNOT.com and a critic of environmentalists, dismisses such notions as "primitive-worship."

"Incredibly, some environmentalists actually prefer that the foul messes we normally capture in diapers and landfills, spill instead onto our linoleum, carpets, and even our children," Bidinotto told CNSNews.com.

Noting many greens' opposition to flush toilets and now baby diapers, Bidinotto said environmentalists' have a "strange affinity for bodily wastes," and he believes they have become "obsessed with toilet issues."

'Be the first in your neighborhood'

Umbra Fisk, advice columnist for Grist Magazine , a major environmental e-publication, has joined the diaperless baby effort.

Responding to a reader's question in the Feb. 12 issue of Grist Magazine about how to handle baby waste in an Earth-friendly manner, Fisk fully endorses the diaper-free movement as a "retro cutting-edge environmentally friendly scheme." Fisk urges parents to "be the first in your neighborhood" to go diaper free.

"People around the world who have no access to diapers manage to raise children, and a small group of parents in diaper-rich countries have decided to follow their lead. Around here, it's called 'elimination communication' or 'diaper-free,'" Fisk wrote.

Fisk argues that changing times mean parents no longer have to change diapers.

"The concept is logical and simple: Infants give recognizable signs of imminent peeing and pooping; it's possible to learn your infant's signs; infant pee isn't frightening; and if you train your kid to ignore their outputs, you'll just have to go back and retrain them when traditional potty-training time arrives," Fisk explained.

Another diaperless baby advocate, who identifies herself as Natec, wrote a how-to manual for prospective mothers of diaperless babies titled, "Elimination Timing: The Solution to the Dirty Diapers War." The manual, which used fictionalized names and characters, describes Natec's motivation to go diaper-free after the birth of her son.

"When David was born, I started to think about the kind of world I was making for him to grow up in. The thought of garbage spewing and sprawling landfills filled me with horror. And right along with this horror were those little mother's helpers, disposable diapers...rotting, but never really going away in all their plastic glory," Natec wrote.

Natec maintains that plastic diapers "can take 500 years to decompose." Natec is not impressed with so-called "biodegradable" diapers, because they "may contain more plastic to compensate for the weakness of their materials."

Although green advocates estimate that diapers account for only between 0.5 to 1.8 percent of landfill space, they nevertheless consider that troubling.

"One percent of billions of tons is worth worrying about. If we don't think about how to address that one percent, which one percent will we address?" asked Richard Dennison, a senior scientist with the Environmental Defense group, as quoted in Natec's how-to manual.

'Evil empire of Western parenting'

Concerns about landfills are not the only reason some parents are going diaperless.

Scott Noelle, editor of the Continuum Concept website and a father, explained why he eventually stopped using diapers on his infant daughter Olivia, in a web essay titled "Going Diaperless."

"In my mind, diapers became the symbol of the Evil Empire of Western Parenting in which babies must suffer to accommodate the needs of their parents' broken-continuum culture: a controlled, sterile, odorless, wall-to-wall carpeted fortress in which to live with the illusion of dominion over nature," wrote Noelle, on the website livingharmony.com.

Despite his concerns, Noelle continued to use diapers on his daughter, despite the fact that he "felt like a monster and a fraud."

Noelle finally chose to go diaperless and looked to traditional cultures for inspiration. "How I longed for a simple, dirt-floored, baby-friendly hut like that of a Yequana family," he wrote.

Natec agrees with Noelle that modern society has a lot to learn from the traditional ways of life.

"[M]any of us have not, until recent years, given credit to the mothering skills of more Earth-centered, i.e. 'primitive" cultures,' she wrote in her how-to manual.

"When you think about it, there have been millions of years of human beings and only a few thousand years with any references to diapers," she added.

But Bidinotto of ecoNOT.com bristles at what he considers the glorification of a "primitive" way of life by diaperless baby advocates.

"These people have no idea what primitive life is really like. Their preferred alternative to today's 'controlled, sterile, odorless' environment is a world of filth and disease, where countless millions died in plagues and epidemics," Bidinotto explained.

Shopping with a diaperless baby

Ingrid Bauer, author of the book "Diaper Free: The Gentle Wisdom of Natural Infant Hygiene," writes on her website natural-wisdom.com that the key for parents interested in going au natural is parent-infant communication.

"Observation and close bonding interaction help the parent to understand the baby's signals, body language and timing rhythms," Bauer writes in the frequently asked questions section of her website

"Some common signals that indicate a need to pee in a young infant are: squirming, "fussing," tensing the face, frowning or having a look of "inner concentration," she wrote.

"When the baby has to go, the parent holds him or her in a comfortable position over an appropriate toilet place and makes a cueing sound (perhaps a gentle "sss")."

What's the parent of a diaperless baby to do when out shopping? Bauer offers this solution.

"These parents may rely on using public bathrooms, or bring along a container such as a tight -lidded bucket," Bauer wrote.

Bauer calls freedom from diapers "responsive infant-care."

"This gentle and ancient practice is the most common way of caring for a baby's hygiene needs in the non-Western world," she writes.

Bidinotto rejects any notion that industrialized nations should mimic the traditional cultures.

"The only thing that we moderns have to learn from primitive cultures is what they themselves learned. They learned that life is much better with modern conveniences, such as diapers. And in fact, most primitive peoples can't wait to get and use such conveniences," Bidinotto explained.

"But now environmentalists want to sentence millions to the filth and drudgery that our ancestors were so eager to escape," he added.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: baby; bigpileopoop; diaper; earthday; environment; envirowacko; green; greens; itsmellsbadinhere; pagingalgore; pee; shiteverywhere
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To: jalisco555
I've known lots of less radical greenies over the years who criticized disposables, claiming cloth diapers are the only environmentally correct method. Every one caved in and started using disposable after actually becoming a parent.
141 posted on 04/25/2005 10:17:34 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: jalisco555

In China they do it with split-pants. It actually seems to work pretty well.


142 posted on 04/25/2005 10:21:05 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: tiamat
i think everybody does... if you have a kid/kids.

Comes with the job. It's why we get gray hair (or no hair in my case).

143 posted on 04/25/2005 10:22:28 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: jalisco555

LOL!

My daughter is just starting that scary teen-age time....

I expect her to turn into a complete alian any morning....


144 posted on 04/25/2005 10:24:53 AM PDT by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: colorado tanker
I've known lots of less radical greenies over the years who criticized disposables, claiming cloth diapers are the only environmentally correct method. Every one caved in and started using disposable after actually becoming a parent.

In my town several diaper services opened up in the 80's. They're all gone now. Even most greens draw the line at throwing poopy diapers in a bucket to be picked up once a week. I hate to think what my wife and I would have done without Pampers.

145 posted on 04/25/2005 10:25:25 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: Petronski; jalisco555; cyborg; onyx
Oh, it's laugh, definitely LOL.

Natural Infant Hygiene

Anyone who's watched and attempted to intercept a toddler running full force toward a toilet or plunging their chubby little arms into said toilet knows all about that 'hygiene'. And those who've had the good fortune to have a diaper leak or seep through the toddler's diaper and clothing and onto your own clothing also has a special appreciation for this 'hygiene'. Yep, some stains don't ever wash out...

Hygiene, lol. If you like wallowing in urine and feces, like a cat in a litterbox.

146 posted on 04/25/2005 10:30:28 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: tiamat
My daughter is just starting that scary teen-age time....

LOL. My brother's triplet daughters turn 15 this summer. Poor guy- drowning in estrogen and training bras! I was lucky- I got the boys.

147 posted on 04/25/2005 10:33:23 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: jalisco555
When my oldest was a baby we went to a picnic. On arrival in the parking lot I changed her diaper in the back seat. As soon as the diaper came off, she let loose with a number two on my sweater. It's become one of those family stories.

All those little darlin's need is the tiniest opportunity.

148 posted on 04/25/2005 10:34:30 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: jalisco555

I'll pray for your brother! LOL!


149 posted on 04/25/2005 10:36:06 AM PDT by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: jalisco555

My sister-in-law lives in one of the most left-wing communities along the west coast. She and her husband have decided to go diaperless with their baby. My wife visted them a few weeks ago and it is a real show to see this baby whizz and poop in a pot. Sister-in-law makes a whizzing noise, she hold the babe between her legs and Junior tinkles in the pot. She flips him around and he goes #2. My wife says that sister-in-law diapers the little guy when she goes to the local tofu-coop. Bizarre.


150 posted on 04/25/2005 10:36:51 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Petronski
The green movement already has declared war on the modern flush toilet, declaring it an "environmental disaster," and has instead pushed waterless "dry" toilets as an earth-friendly solution.

LOL. Do they mean one of these instead? Ever smelled one?

Meanwhile, places like Thailand, hosting a World Toilet Summet, are rushing to solve the hygiene problem.

151 posted on 04/25/2005 10:37:13 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: tiamat

A little prayer and a little thorazine should get him through the next few years.


152 posted on 04/25/2005 10:37:38 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: Petronski; jalisco555; cyborg; onyx
The green movement already has declared war on the modern flush toilet, declaring it an "environmental disaster," and has instead pushed waterless "dry" toilets as an earth-friendly solution.

LOL. Do they mean one of these instead? Ever smelled one?

Meanwhile, places like Thailand, hosting a World Toilet Summet, are rushing to solve the hygiene problem.

153 posted on 04/25/2005 10:37:40 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: jalisco555

LOL!

I sincerely hope so!


154 posted on 04/25/2005 10:38:54 AM PDT by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: jalisco555

Diaperless babies.

Plastic diapers filling the garbage dumps.

Too much washing of cloth diapers.

I am starting to understand now why Hippies' stink so damn much.


155 posted on 04/25/2005 10:39:19 AM PDT by trubluolyguy ("By the time you see the flying monkeys it is already too late")
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To: cvq3842
What the heck is a "dry toilet"?

A coffee can.

156 posted on 04/25/2005 10:42:29 AM PDT by dc27
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To: jalisco555

As a parent of a one-year old son, my hat is off to the inventor of the Diaper Genie. This device makes things so much more convenient and pleasant.


157 posted on 04/25/2005 10:45:56 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: jalisco555

-Infants give recognizable signs of imminent peeing and pooping; it's possible to learn your infant's signs; infant pee isn't frightening; and if you train your kid to ignore their outputs, you'll just have to go back and retrain them when traditional potty-training time arrives," Fisk explained.-

Don't know about other places, but Russian moms have been doing this for years because they can't afford diapers. Babies are fully potty trained in no time. In conclusion, if you live out in the woods with a dry toilet, I guess this kind of thing might just work out for you...


158 posted on 04/25/2005 10:46:56 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: tiamat
it's the women who change a baby's diaper RIGHT THERE in a restaurant who get me. And then they get naasty if you say anything to them. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Or how about the mother who plopped her baby down in the aisle of the theater we were at, right in the middle of the movie, and changed the dirty diaper. The twit didn't even consider how unclean the floor was, let alone what she subjected the movie patrons to. And she couldn't have seen well enough to really clean up the baby.

She apparently couldn't bring herself to miss any of the movie by taking the baby into the changing area in the restroom. I personally never took little babies to a movie theater, not sure why anybody would do so in the first place.

159 posted on 04/25/2005 10:50:29 AM PDT by Mjaye
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To: Mjaye

Me either.

I stayed home for YEARS.. I think my daughter was 5 before we took her to a movie.


160 posted on 04/25/2005 10:53:24 AM PDT by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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