Posted on 04/25/2005 6:00:12 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl
oh yeah, you are also leaving out, in the case of Benedict XVI, why he asked to retire to Baveria three times in the past 15 years. Last time was pretty recent, too. Kind of undermines the credibility of the NYPost article.
"Every Cardinal, when he first arrives in Rome, no doubt dreams that the Holy Spirit might well one day chose to work through him, were he to be elevated to the Papacy.."
That's certainly possible. He did keep Cardinal Ratzinger in essentially the number two position for many years knowing that Ratzinger wanted to return to Germany. A well-respected priest I know said that among him and his priest friends it was clear that among the cardinals Ratzinger was head and shoulders above the rest. They also thought, like many of us, that he had no chance of being elected Pope.
Some information about his thoughts during the conclave.
It's a shame how people project their own behaviors or motivators on other people. The piece about how Benedict campaigned was just another example of that. Benedict says what he means about the faith, loving it, respecting it, and living it, and people say he is politicking.
People are responding to him not because of his politicking, but because of how well he reflects Christ.
>> [S]ounds like the new Pope had help from Karl Rove... <<
Hehe. Have you seen the DU rantings?
"It's like Bush dying after four terms and finding out the new President is Karl Rove."
And yes, it IS all Bush's fault! Dozens of posters have ranted about how Bush did it.
If there wasn't so much evidence to the contrary one could, if one wasn't inclined to look at facts or evidence, be swept up in the projections and wishes of the uninformed.
It's also difficult to attribute characteristics which you don't have yourself (and therefore, are suspect or unknown to you) onto other people.
In this photo made available by the Vatican daily L'Osservatore Romano, Pope Benedict XVI, center, greets Metropolitan of Smolensk and Kaliningrad Kirill, left, a senior representative of the Russian Orthodox Church, during a meeting in the Sala Clementina at the Vatican, Monday, April 25, 2005. Benedict told ecumenical leaders on Monday that he fully supported the need to work toward uniting Christians divided by schism. (AP Photo/Osservatore Romano)
Wouldn't you have loved to be a fly on the wall at this meeting!
Pell is quite impressive.
---It's also difficult to attribute characteristics which you don't have yourself (and therefore, are suspect or unknown to you) onto other people.---
Tells you a lot about the complainers and accusers!
"or if some things that the Pope has to say and do on the basis of his conscience or the conscience of the Church seem hard to understand.""
This is an unusually open statement, I assume it refers to the fact he is now a politician/statesman in his role and will be required to say things inconsistent with his personal views or things he has done or said in the past, as his obligations have changed dramatically.
Oh, yeah. I also would've loved to have been a fly on the wall in Frank's office when Benedict walked out onto the balcony last Tuesday.
It's on LOUD in the other room, think this is the second or third time I've seen it.. I love Cardinal Pell and I noticed in one fast shot of the balcony where all the bishops stood when the new Benedict XVI, he was standing there smiling along with Cardinal George of Chicago.
I also like Joan 'what's her name' and I love Fr. Neuhaus.
For all his boyish looks, Raymond Arroyo is excellent at what he does. I hope he stays at EWTN.
Ditto:
"The more I read about him the more I love him! Benedict XVI is a wonderful choice. God has smiled on His church."
Let us keep this holy man in our prayers. His beautiful homilies show that he can defend our Faith through gentle persuasion and brilliant reason.
Doncha just love this guy?
YES, I DO!
You are right, JaC. It IS a very CLEVER tagline. I noticed it days ago, but didn't take the time to mention it.
Thanks!
"or if some things that the Pope has to say and do on the basis of his conscience or the conscience of the Church seem hard to understand.""
This is an unusually open statement, I assume it refers to the fact he is now a politician/statesman in his role and will be required to say things inconsistent with his personal views or things he has done or said in the past, as his obligations have changed dramatically.
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That might be what he meant by that statement. I took it to mean that he was telling them that they should not turn away from the church or from him if they personally disagree with some specific position held by him or by the church.
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