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Woster: Hikers, arm yourselves with song
Rapid City Journal ^ | 25 Apr 05 | Kevin Woster

Posted on 04/25/2005 4:43:06 AM PDT by rellimpank

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To: rellimpank
I don't know much about Lyme disease. Is it localized to any state, region, area. What is it and what are the symptoms?
21 posted on 04/25/2005 5:58:57 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer
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To: rellimpank

Funny, our RC Journal was not in the box this morning. We live right in the middle of "lion country".

Perhaps our paper boy did not sing loudly enough.


22 posted on 04/25/2005 6:04:15 AM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Personally, I prefer a .1911 fully loaded. Stick? Looks like natural selection is working for the latest mountain lion lunch. Yeah, stick-what a maroon.


23 posted on 04/25/2005 6:07:30 AM PDT by alarm rider
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To: rellimpank
Pepper spray and a set of little bells tied to one's shoelaces are also good for scaring away wild animals that would do bodily harm to someone.

And you can tell when wild animals like that are around....their spore has a peppery aroma and has little bells in it.

24 posted on 04/25/2005 6:11:55 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Planned Parenthood is neither.)
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To: rellimpank

But being as how this is a .44 Magnum, the world's most powerful handgun, and would take your head clean off, you have to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well do you, mountain lion?


25 posted on 04/25/2005 6:33:24 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: rellimpank

--I thought we needed a funny thread---


26 posted on 04/25/2005 6:44:09 AM PDT by rellimpank (urbanites don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm:NRABenefactor)
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To: rellimpank

Mountain lions, cougars, panthers - whatever you call 'em - ain't a wilderness problem these days. If you want protection, a stick isn't going to do too much good if the cat hits you first. If you survive the spine crushing bite, a better choice would be a concealed back-up piece in a heavy caliber. Besides, it'll help deal with two-legged predators you run into in all night parking lots, too.

In the heart of the Twin Cities metropolitan area a couple years back, an adult cougar was shot in a city park. Cougars, like most cats, stalk their prey and when the cougar strikes, it does so from behind if it can. If you're hiking in these areas, keep the kids in sight and close to the group and bring a dog, if you can.


27 posted on 04/25/2005 6:44:24 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Get after the RAT's all of you cat people - earn your keep!)
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To: rellimpank

Can I get that stick in a 9mm caliber? Oh, and that loud noise is just my percussion section!!


28 posted on 04/25/2005 6:46:01 AM PDT by MortMan (Quiet reflection does not involve a mirror.)
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To: rellimpank

Singing "Born Free" like Ethel Merman is guaranteed to repulse bear and mountain lion attacks.


29 posted on 04/25/2005 6:46:20 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Rammer

I have no idea where the link is. But a coworker showed me a web site posting pics of a *LARGE* grizzly bear that had been shot by a hunter. The bear was found near the the remains of a hiker who had emptied a .357 into the bear before becoming the bear's last meal. None of the bear's wounds were fatal.


30 posted on 04/25/2005 6:46:38 AM PDT by Fudd (Never confuse a liberal with facts.)
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To: Fudd
emptied a .357 into the bear

Just about every thread I've ever read about this says that a .357 is too small.

31 posted on 04/25/2005 7:04:28 AM PDT by Musket
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To: Musket; Rammer
I was looking for the bear-eats-man web site. Turns out the human remains photo was a hoax. LINK

But the dead bear was still *very* large.

32 posted on 04/25/2005 7:11:45 AM PDT by Fudd (Never confuse a liberal with facts.)
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To: Fudd; Musket

All right then that settles it.

From now on I'm hiking with Browning .50 or an RPG-7.

Stupid bears and stuff.

;-)


33 posted on 04/25/2005 7:14:10 AM PDT by Rammer
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To: Fudd

"The bear was found near the the remains of a hiker who had emptied a .357 into the bear before becoming the bear's last meal."

This clearly confirms the opinion of rangers that shooting a bear will only make it angry. Or the opinion of Elmer Keith (and many others) that a .357 will not stop a grizzly. Heck it is only marginal on Black bears. In Griz country it is prudent to carry a .308 rifle or better. I personally prefer a short barrel 12 guage loaded with hard cast slugs.
Cougars are very easy to kill with a gun an many hunters use a .22 pistol to kill them when they are treed by the dogs. If I were walking in cougar country a .38 or larger w jhps would be ok.


34 posted on 04/25/2005 7:16:51 AM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: Adder

Yeah, the odds of actually running into a hostile predator in Virginia and North Carolina are "relatively" small, but it all depends on where you are at. The big predators tend to stay away from the heavily used hiking trails, but if you go back into the deep brush and "hollers," then you might just see something snarling with big teeth. Likewise, the idea that a mountain lion or bear will run away if you make enough noise or whack it on the nose doesn't hold up if cubs are present, in which case momma will attack on sight.


35 posted on 04/25/2005 7:24:38 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: parcel_of_rogues
That song was the exact same thing which came to my mind when I saw this article. I love to sing it, but never knew how to spell "Valderi or Valdera".

Also love to hike but somehow never feel like singing it while hiking.

36 posted on 04/25/2005 7:26:26 AM PDT by Shanda
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To: Fudd
That story is an urban legend. The hiker and the bear story were unrelated, but put together for effect. There was no evidence that the hiker was armed at all.

Nevertheless, my .475 Linebaugh goes with me on hikes. It is big enough to handle just about ANY game in the western hemisphere, including Alaskan Brown bears.

37 posted on 04/25/2005 7:46:32 AM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: Shanda

"Also love to hike but somehow never feel like singing it while hiking."

Me neither, especially doing PUDS...sometimes its all you can do just to breathe let alone sing....

:]


38 posted on 04/25/2005 8:12:18 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Adder
Don't guess I know what PUDS is.

I used to love to hike with my Daddy. He called it "exploring" like it was an adventure. Now that I think about it, it was.

39 posted on 04/25/2005 8:38:57 AM PDT by Shanda
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To: Adder
Your ignorance of firearms is appalling. Shoot yourself in the foot while hiking armed? Not a very likly possibility. I myself have been saved from mountain lion attack by being armed. I would say you have fewer lions in your area than are available here in CA.

It is not uncommon at all to be attacked by mountain lions in CA, even though most of the attacks now a days are not reported in the media since they don't want hunting of them to be reopened.

The best defense is to be armed although several campers have beaten them off with frying pans.

My advice to you is to keep walking in lion free zones with your little stick because if you came here you would stand a good chance of being eaten.

40 posted on 04/25/2005 8:57:38 AM PDT by calex59
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