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Past Not Over (Why Passover is the most widely observed Jewish holiday.)
The American Spectator ^ | 4/25/2005 | Jay D. Homnick

Posted on 04/24/2005 10:12:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: malakhi

And how has your Passover been going so far?


21 posted on 04/26/2005 12:23:13 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: Buggman
To try to take the Messiah out of Passover certainly loses the rich prophetic meaning that God built into it, but to simply dismiss its commemorative function is equally wrong. Each illuminates the other.

You will get no argument from me.

22 posted on 04/26/2005 12:26:29 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Bella_Bru
And how has your Passover been going so far?

You mean prior to reading this thread? ;o)

Good! It was an enjoyable weekend, if not exactly relaxing.

23 posted on 04/26/2005 12:27:33 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: malakhi; Bella_Bru

I'm sure what was meant is that Passover is about matzo, not the Messiah. You know lots of freepers can't spell.


24 posted on 04/26/2005 12:34:11 PM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: SJackson

I hadn't considered that. Good point! :o)


25 posted on 04/26/2005 12:38:40 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: malakhi
Relax? On Passover?

That's what all that wine is for.

26 posted on 04/26/2005 12:39:35 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: SJackson
True, true.

BTW, anyone need some matzah? I went a bit crazy at the store and now have entirely too much.

27 posted on 04/26/2005 12:41:03 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: Bella_Bru
anyone need some matzah? I went a bit crazy at the store and now have entirely too much.

Just put it away and save it for next year. Who will know the difference?

28 posted on 04/26/2005 12:50:36 PM PDT by Alouette (In each and every generation they rise up to destroy us, but the Holy One, saves us from their hands)
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To: Alouette

You're right. No one would know the difference if it were 10 years old. ;-) It isn't bad though if you slather about 1/2 inch of butter on it.


29 posted on 04/26/2005 1:00:29 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: Bella_Bru
It isn't bad though if you slather about 1/2 inch of butter on it.

...and then sprinkle with kosher salt. Mmmmm!

Or, you could make a mataza brei.

30 posted on 04/26/2005 1:16:15 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Matza brei is good stuff.

Now I'm hungry. :-)

31 posted on 04/26/2005 1:23:56 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: connectthedots; Alouette; Bella_Bru; malakhi
On behalf of decent Christians everywhere, please accept my apologies for the boorish proselytizing in this post.
33 posted on 04/26/2005 3:07:25 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("A man's character is his fate." -Heraclitus)
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To: connectthedots; malakhi; Alouette; Bella_Bru

"Passover is about a promise and hope for the future in the form of the Messiah. Other than Messianic Jews, Jews missed out on the obvious fact that Jesus christ was and is the Messiah. The passover set the nation of Israel free from Pharoh and Jesus can set them free from their sins."

I'll repeat what Malakhi said: "NEWSFLASH: Jews don't believe in Christianity. Get over it already."

Here's part of the reason why: http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/web/handbook/s_messiah.html

Basically, the dead Jewish guy that you have chosen to worship didn't meet any of the qualifications of being the Moschiach except being Jewish. He wasn't a descendant of both King David AND King Solomon on either his mother's or father's side; he didn't bring all of the world's Jews back to Israel; he didn't build the 3rd Temple (which would've been a neat trick, as the 2nd was still standing for a generation after he died; he didn't obey all Jewish laws (and, in fact, advised people to ignore the entire Oral Law, which is just as Divinely valid as the Written Law); he didn't resurrect all of the Jewish dead; etc., etc.

There have been many false Moshiachs throughout the ages. Their failure to achieve ALL of the prophecized goals made them false, no matter that some of them may have been very good people with the best of intentions (just as some were quite delusional, as were their followers).

Any person is free to believe whatever they'd like to. However, a belief system dependent for its basis on Hebrew scriptures CANNOT (if it has any logical consistency) pick and choose only the convenient parts of that theology, let alone twist the meaning of those selected parts beyond all recognition of the very People that has studied that theology for thousands of years. The Hebrew scriptures, which were transmitted by G-d to the Jewish People through His servant, Moses, are very definite in indicating that G-d would NEVER AGAIN (after Sinai) establish a chosen people or favored religion. G-d doesn't lie, nor is He an "Indian-giver," so Judaism is IT, like it or agree with it or not. The doctrine of supercession is bunk, as the Hebrew scriptures are clear that G-d will punish the Jews for deviating from His laws, just as a parent will punish his/her children for not listening, but that the Jews will always be His favored nation...and if you look at history, the very survival of the Jews (in violation of every single rule out there) testifies to this. Without G-d's protection, without Him adhering to His word without deviation, the Jews would long ago have ceased to exist.

This does not, of course, mean that non-Jews have no place in "The World to Come" (a.k.a. Heaven). Observance of the 7 Noahide Laws gets you there.

To repeat: "NEWSFLASH: Jews don't believe in Christianity. Get over it already."


34 posted on 04/26/2005 3:21:42 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Lurking Libertarian; Bella_Bru
1/2 inch of butter on it.
...and then sprinkle with kosher salt. Mmmmm!

Or, you could make a mataza brei.

We don't do gebrokts, but, I am VERY creative!!

35 posted on 04/26/2005 3:22:26 PM PDT by Alouette (In each and every generation they rise up to destroy us, but the Holy One, saves us from their hands)
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To: Ancesthntr

Jews believe in the coming of the Messiah, and that when he does come, he will get everything done on the first try.


36 posted on 04/26/2005 3:24:48 PM PDT by Alouette (In each and every generation they rise up to destroy us, but the Holy One, saves us from their hands)
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To: Alouette
We don't do gebrokts

Pesach is the time to be a mitnaged.

37 posted on 04/26/2005 3:56:44 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Alouette

I left the smiley face off my #37. I am teasing you, obviously.


38 posted on 04/26/2005 3:58:00 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: ambrose
Exactly...

Nothing messianic about Passover...

Is that Benny Hinn reinterpreting stuff again... LOL
39 posted on 04/26/2005 4:01:07 PM PDT by ARA
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To: nickcarraway

bump for later...


40 posted on 04/26/2005 4:01:47 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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