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Nobody here but us Christian extremists!
Enter Stage Right ^ | April 18, 2005 | Steve Farrell

Posted on 04/24/2005 6:15:41 PM PDT by Archon of the East

Nobody here but us Christian extremists!

By Steve Farrell web posted April 18, 2005

Let's stop pretending. There is no such thing as religious neutrality in the minds of those who support the secular, socialist state. They are at war with religion in general and Christianity in particular. They always have been.

A fresh 'respectable' example: the openly hostile March 29th, New York Times oped, "What's Going On?" by Paul Krugman.

In it Mr. Krugman shamefully compares white right-wing Christians to Islamic extremists for their contempt for democracy, their contempt for the rule of law, their budding thirst for blood, and a host of other problems.

Nice work.

And he has an inspired, compassionate, freedom loving, left wing solution: Silence them or else.

And as insane as it sounds, Krugman's 'or else' refers to his belief that the U.S. will soon resemble the Middle East, complete with no women's rights, zero science, and political-assassination- a-plenty if we continue to tolerate right wing, read that 'conservative,' 'traditional,' 'mainstream' Christianity.

Look at what happened in the Netherlands, he says, where "[their] culture of tolerance led the nation to ignore the growing influence of Islamic extremists until they turned murderous."

America is next; for the United States is a place "where dangerous extremists belong to the majority religion and the majority ethnic group, and wield great political influence."

These Christians, these extremists – and he uses the word extremist ten times, including his reference to Christian legislative efforts as "cutting edge extremism" – are putting our nation at risk.

And it must be so. In close proximity to every reference to Christian extremism are such additional 'nice' words and phrases as: kill, murder, assassination, climate of fear, and armed body guards; and sweeping charges of Christians being guilty of: meddling, circumventing the courts, intimidating in the name of God, undermining the rule of law, zero self restraint, and finally, get this: "pressure." Krugman is so disturbed about Christians applying political "pressure" that he mentioned this grievous sin three times.

Then come his examples:

He started off with 'abuses of power' by a trio of Christian extremists – the Bush Brothers and Congressman Tom Delay – three men who dared to stand up for the right to life of Terri Schiavo against the Almighty courts and their culture of death.

How fighting the court system – the least democratic element in our government, and the most liable to commit abuse against the democratic pulse of the people and the rule of law – is an act against democracy [1] and the rule of law, and in this case, in defense of the Unalienable Right to Life, is a puzzle that Krugman fails to explain.

If he was looking to be fair and balanced he might have looked back to the case of the 'founder' of the Democrat Party, Thomas Jefferson, who, as President, declared the Sedition Act unconstitutional without consulting the Supreme Court or Congress, and set free those previously imprisoned, because he believed every branch has the right to interpret the Constitution as it sees fit, and that any law that overthrows an Unalienable Right is NOT a law. [2]

Mr. Krugman might also have noted that Jefferson wasn't afraid to claim such a right on religious grounds either. Said Jefferson:

I discharged every person under punishment or prosecution under the Sedition law, because I considered and now consider that law to be a nullity as absolute and as palpable as if Congress had ordered us to fall down and worship a golden image; and that it was as my duty to arrest it's execution in every stage, as it would have been to have rescued from the fiery furnace those who should have been cast into it for refusing to worship their image. … On this I am not afraid to appeal to the nation at large, to posterity, and still less to that Being who sees Himself our motives, who will judge from His own knowledge of them, and not on the testimony of a Porcupine or Fenno. [3]

Not bad. A true 'extremist,' the 'founder' of the Democrat Party.

Krugman's next examples of 'extremism' get even more bizarre.

Where Christian extremists "are found in large numbers," he complains, they have "pressured" state legislators into passing "conscience" and "refusal" laws, which permit doctors and pharmacists to refuse to perform abortions or to sell "morning after" pills when such actions are contrary to their deepest held convictions.

Just as threatening, Christian extremists have made it so that "31 percent of teachers … feel pressured [there's that word again] to present creationism-related material in the classroom."

This is pretty serious stuff. 'Pressure.'

Isn't such pressure a manly, vigilant, free exercise of religion and speech in America? Krugman thinks not. Obsessed with compelling everyone to think and act alike – in a manner antagonistic to the Christian faith – he sees any resistance to the liberal status quo as a clear and present danger.

"What we need – and we aren't seeing", says Krugman, "is a firm stand by moderates against religious extremism."

You know, Mr. Krugman, there's a more honest way of wording this last sentence of yours. Try this one on for size: "What we need is a firm stand by left wing extremists against political and religious moderation."

After all, liberals generally favor an 'any thing goes', nearly anarchist approach to morals, and a utopian, extremely centrist, if not Marxist approach to government – which sounds pretty extreme to me; while conservatism generally favors traditional moral and political values over moral and political excesses – a stand that encourages a healthy combination of limited government, free enterprise, and social democracy, standing upon the foundation of a "frequent recurrence to" fixed, fundamental, Higher principles [4]. If the latter mix isn't the more moderate approach, what is?

Footnotes:

1. The Founders gave us a republic, not a democracy, which incorporated such things as checks and balances, Higher Law, mixed modes of representation, etc., as checks against pure popular whim. 2. Cappon, Lester J., editor. The Adams–Jefferson Letters: The Complete Correspondence between Thomas Jefferson & Abigail & John Adams, University of North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill and London, 1959, renewed 1987, pgs. 278-279, Jefferson to Abigail Adams, Sept. 11, 1804. 3. Ibid. pgs. 274-276, Jefferson to Abigail Adams, July 22, 1804. 4. Mason, George. The Virginia Declaration of Rights, June 12, 1776.

NewsMax pundit Steve Farrell is associate professor of political economy at George Wythe College, press agent for Defend Marriage (a project of United Families International), and the author of the highly praised, inspirational novel, "Dark Rose" (available at amazon.com). Follow his daily blog at www.LibertyLetters.blogspot.com

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: christian; krugmam; newyorktimes; nyt; paulkrugman
Paul Krugman would be nothing more than a lost soul to be pitied if weren't for the fact that his delusions are given a dangerous forum at the National Enquirer...Er I mean New York Times
1 posted on 04/24/2005 6:15:46 PM PDT by Archon of the East
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To: Archon of the East
The Left cannot make peace with religion unless it concedes its ideas are wrong. That it will never do.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 04/24/2005 6:19:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Archon of the East
Excellent.

BTTT

3 posted on 04/24/2005 6:20:13 PM PDT by downwithsocialism
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To: goldstategop

I've been reading your posts now for six months and you are right. I mean "right". Thank you.


4 posted on 04/24/2005 6:28:16 PM PDT by Raffus (Thanks to all Veterans for their service to USA.)
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To: Archon of the East

"Not bad. A true 'extremist,' the 'founder' of the Democrat Party."

I pretty confident that democratic party of today would be completely unrecognizable and disgusting in comparison to the democratic party of Thomas Jefferson, or even JFK. The democratic party of today is more like a reflection of the communist party than anything else, they just haven't gotten around to officially changing the name yet.


5 posted on 04/24/2005 6:28:29 PM PDT by frankiep
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To: frankiep
democratic party of today would be completely unrecognizable and disgusting in comparison to the democratic party of Thomas Jefferson, or even JFK

I believe it happened at about the same time the definition of Liberty was changed from "freedom of self Government" to "license to do what one pleases without regard to moral obligation." I do believe the "new" liberals (they stole that term also) somehow feel because we all have faults and at times fail to live up to the moral duty we believe in that somehow that should make everyone quit trying or worse yet stop recognizing it's existence

6 posted on 04/24/2005 6:42:44 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Archon of the East

Paul Krugman is a socialist worm.


7 posted on 04/24/2005 6:53:18 PM PDT by ShowMeMom
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To: ShowMeMom
Paul Krugman is a socialist worm.

I would have said dung beetle but worms are good too! By the way has Krugman EVER predicted something in his supposed field of expertise (economics) that has come true?

8 posted on 04/24/2005 6:58:19 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: goldstategop

They've got a god complex.

They either believe they are god, or at least equal.

Impossible to have peace with that form of arrogance.


9 posted on 04/24/2005 7:06:07 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: goldstategop
The Left cannot make peace with religion unless it concedes its ideas are wrong. That it will never do.

They can't even concede the right of religion as stated in the FIRST clause of the first amendment. I haven't checked it out in a while but the ACLU completely eliminated the first clause on their website.

10 posted on 04/24/2005 7:16:08 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Archon of the East

INTREP


11 posted on 04/24/2005 7:29:31 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: Archon of the East

I wonder if the NYT, like the Seattle Times, is in financial trouble and, as a result, they feel the necessity to publish these inflammatory op-eds.


12 posted on 04/24/2005 8:20:30 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Archon of the East
What we need – and we aren't seeing", says Krugman, "is a firm stand by moderates against religious extremism."

Is this a joke?

13 posted on 04/24/2005 8:32:36 PM PDT by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: frankiep
I pretty confident that democratic party of today would be completely unrecognizable and disgusting in comparison to the democratic party of Thomas Jefferson, or even JFK. The democratic party of today is more like a reflection of the communist party than anything else, they just haven't gotten around to officially changing the name yet.

Well, the Democrats are controlled by a bunch of "barking moonbats" although I do wonder about some Republicans who are gutless wonders but I digress. The barking moonbats see religion as a challenge to their power, so they must either destroy it or mold it to their values. They tried the first, not even Stalin could smash the idea of God so they are trying the latter tack to make religion change to their views.
14 posted on 04/24/2005 8:36:21 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage Listener - Any Questions?)
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To: Soul Seeker

"Impossible to have peace with that form of arrogance."

This is becoming painfully evident.


15 posted on 04/24/2005 11:09:59 PM PDT by frankiep
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To: Fruit of the Spirit
I wonder if the NYT, like the Seattle Times, is in financial trouble and, as a result, they feel the necessity to publish these inflammatory op-eds.

No, I don't believe that is the case, although I believe circulation is down. I think they are just taking a definitive political stance and becoming more like most if not all papers in Europe which support agendas and not journalism...IMO

16 posted on 04/25/2005 5:34:15 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Archon of the East

Hmmm, if circulation is down that means that their advertiser's message isn't getting out which, in turn, could cost them BIG money.

Too, if there were enough people willing to boycott their advertisers, they could be put out of business.


17 posted on 04/26/2005 8:07:09 AM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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