Posted on 04/24/2005 1:23:57 PM PDT by JesseHousman
Ah, good old liberation theology! The good Maryknoll priests, et al, sowing the seeds of communism South of the border.
Good! Shape up or ship out!
Amen.
Considering the fact that the new pope has openly condemned marxism (by name no less), its pretty clear he is hostile to marxism, its theories and ideology (he actually referred to it as an evil), so yea, he's going to want to cleanse the church of this bastardization of doctrine.
I wonder if the aforementioned Rev. Charles Curran is a Jesuit (or former Jesuit). I think he may have been the President of my college many years ago.
Jolly Good! I am happy any time when commies pretending to be priests shiver in their frocks. They day that this Marxist scource departs the Church will be a happy one, indeed.
so would the Church be in favour of a "liberation" theology that favoured Western style democracy as opposed to Marxism
or do they prefer that poor people stay poor, is that God's will or something
I also understand that criticism that it appears the higher echelons of the church are content to live in luxury whilst allowing many millions of their subjects to wallow, I don't think Jesus would approve at all, governments do this too but they don't have a "higher duty"
actually if you look at what Jesus says, I suspect he would be a non secular Marxist type,
I mean that bread and fishes trick, I could see how some priests got the notion for the liberation theology
Capitalism must be tempered by ethics, morality, and conscience.
Great! Let's hope B-XVI shakes the trees! Whatever falls out can just rot.
Liberation theology amounts to trading in your Christianity for Communism. It involves violence, hatred, revolution, and class warfare. There's a lot of injustice in Latin America, but Communism is not the best way to deal with it.
There is nothing quite like a German for discipline and good administration.
This is a quote about liberation theology from an interview with Cradinal Ratzinger in 1984:
"It is painful to be confronted with the illusion, so essentially un-Christian, which is present among some priests and theologians, that a new man and a new world can be created, not by calling each individual to conversion, but only by changing the social and economic structures. For it is precisly personal sin that is in reality at the root of unjust social structures. Those who really desire a more human society need to begin with the root, not the trunk and branches, of the tree of injustice."
I chose that quote only because it is in a book on my desk. There are many fine discussions and analyses of the topic in Benedict's writings on the subject.
Somebody please tell the Miami Herald to delve beneath the surface.
That's an oversimplification. The Church is also convinced of the urgent need of ministering to the poor. See Mother Teresa and the Daughters of Charity.
Liberation theology goes much further than that. The problem with liberation theology is that it de-emphasizes personal sin, the need for sanctifying grace, the goal of eternal salvation and reduces the Church's mission solely to that of a political movement. Furthermore, in true Marxist style, it advocates the overthrow of "unjust" social "structures" and regards the deprivation of worldly material goods as the ultimate sin.
In short, it takes a real Christian concern and focuses on it exclusively to the detriment of other aspects of the Christian mission while proposing a false solution.
"The Rev. Gustavo Gutiérrez, often called the intellectual author of the movement for his 1971 book, The Theology of Liberation, was also summoned to Rome, but he escaped any kind of punishment. So did the Universidad Centroamericana, a seminary in El Salvador that taught liberation theology. "
And another one of these clowns was Colimo Restrepo Torres who became the head of the ELN or National Liberation Army in Colombia. The ELN is a terrorist group that did/does kidnappings and murders. I learned about this joker in one of my university classes where they praise him to the skies. At a California Socialist University of course.
Hmmm! Preists who become communists or communists who become preists? I've often wondered!
Ken Lay has nothing to do with capitalism - that's the leftist spin. He's a good old fashioned snake oil salesman and influence peddler. Had he been willing to compete honestly in a capitalist marketplace, Enron wouldn't have collapsed. He tried to cheat, got caught, and destroyed his company.
"actually if you look at what Jesus says, I suspect he would be a non secular Marxist type,"
Couldn't have said it better myself. Ayn Rand pointed out a long time ago how Christianity and modern capitalism are incompatible. Give the poor my jacket and the shirt off my back? Yeah right, get a job you losers.
Then again, I guess back in Jesus's day everyone smelled like a homeless person ...
"Jolly Good! I am happy any time when commies pretending to be priests shiver in their frocks. They day that this Marxist scource departs the Church will be a happy one, indeed."
He should round up a possee for a 21st century Inquisition and blitz through the US and South America to weed out pedophile priests and communists in robes.
"The Church is also convinced of the urgent need of ministering to the poor."
The poor don't need "ministering," they need to take some personal responsibility. Blessed are the poor? I grew up poor and let me tell you there is nothing "blessed" about it. If heaven did exist, do you think Jesus will make all those "blessed" homeless take a shower before they stink up the place?
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