Posted on 04/23/2005 7:39:40 PM PDT by rface
Dear Editor of the Columbia Tribune:
I was sitting at home the other evening when there was a knock on my door. When I answered, I found two young men, dressed alarmingly like Nazi Youth members, standing at my door. I saw their name tags and the identification of a Christian church. I informed them, immediately, that mine was not a Christian home and that they should leave. Ah, but that was not enough. They demanded my name and an explanation; they simply could not accept that not everyone in the world is a Christian. I gave them an explanation.
I’m an American Indian (Choctaw). My family and my ancestors have a long history with Christians who, when persuasion didn’t work, resorted to strong-arm tactics, torture, murder, even kidnapping Indian children and sending them off to "mission schools" to force my people to become Christians. My people have long memories, and our distrust of Christians runs hundreds of years deep.
I finally had to threaten to call the police and file trespassing charges to get these youths to leave. A simple "no" was not enough.
My people believe deeply that there are many paths to the creator. When someone finds one’s path, that is cause for rejoicing. However, too many Christians believe that theirs is the only path and that if you don’t follow their beliefs, steps must be taken to change your mind. For far too many Christians, "live and let live" is an alien concept.
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Debbie Johnson
((Address deleted here, but available at the link))
Columbia, Missouri 65202
here's a tid-bit about the great Choctaw tribe
By: TW SMith
Date: Thursday, 2 August 2001, at 9:49 a.m.
A lot of people do not realize indians were slave owners. Through my research, i have realized the secret on the freedmen rolls people were playing with the freedmen and people who would read these rolls were thinking. My great grandfather name was Israel Colbert,born abt 1854 in Misssissippi. His father name was Edmund Colbert born abt 1834 in Mississippi. His father name was Sam Colbert born mid 1800's. Well when you look at edmund colbert freedman card his owner is a choctaw indian, his father name is SAm Colbert. Well sam Colbert was the big time choctaw indian slave owner that owned many slaves down in arond Choctaw county were my relatives were from. There is no other sam colbert that old i could find but sam colbert the choctaw indian. Many people have told me that indeed sam colbert the slave owner was the father of edmund colbert. I know indians and whites fathered many children by slaves.
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I am probably too lazy to contack Debbie the Choctaw Indian that might owe some $$ (reparations) to former slave families - but maybe I'll drop her a note
Don't you know it's not nice to confuse some people with facts?
Every group has its extremists, and self-defined Christians are no different. The author fails to note that the it's only in historically Christian nations where people have any tradition of tolerance and a "live and let live" approach to dealing with their neighbors.
Your first mistake.
I found two young men, dressed alarmingly like Nazi Youth members, standing at my door. I saw their name tags and the identification of a Christian church. I informed them, immediately, that mine was not a Christian home and that they should leave... They demanded my name and an explanation; they simply could not accept that not everyone in the world is a Christian. I gave them an explanation.
You are stupid, Debbie. Next time, just slam the door shut.
Debbie, for future reference...
"No, thank you, gentlemen [or ladies, for that matter]. I'm not interested. Have a good day."
Close the door.
You're done.
I haven't seen any Mormons packing Winchesters or Buck knives on their bikes lately. They're not going to kill you. No need to be a paranoid jackass.
I don't believe a word of this woman's story.
She could have simply said no thanks and closed the door. I do it all the time. But of course that wouldn't have allowed for her anti-Christian victim-status claiming screed. She apparently does not believe in live and let live.
Precisely my reaction.
If her Indian heritage is so important to her, then why does she keep her Christian name??? I wonder what the Choctaw word for Turkey Crap is ---- whatever that is, I think that should be her Indian name
I don't either and where are all these idiots learning their lopsided history? Indians killed each other, raided other tribes, kidnapped children, raped women and butchered the rest, same story, get a life.
Of course not...."live and let live" is ONLY for liberals.
Of course not...."live and let live" is ONLY for liberals.
Smelled like hog hooey to me too.
My home is also not a Christian home. We get missionaries occasionally. They are without exception polite. They certainly never dress like "Nazi Youth" members—presumably "Debbie" is referring to the Hitler Youth, who wore brown uniforms, not black slacks and white dress shirts. Missionaries never "demand" anything, and they're perfectly able to "accept" that not everyone in the world is a Christian. Indeed, if everyone in the world were a Christian, that would eliminate the entire point of missionaries, now wouldn't it? The mere concept of missionaries implies that not everyone in the world is Christian.
So, in the absence of any corroborative evidence, "Debbie"—if that's her real name—has fabricated this incident to push her agenda.
"I think that should be her Indian name"
Probably "Two Dogs..." :-)
...sorry, old joke
I think the new Pope started a new trend with this Nazi Youth stufff....
I'm just amazed how two (2) youths knocking at the door (true story or not) can be turned into "Many Christians can't accept 'live and let live'..." and "Nazi Youth Members".
LOL - I was sitting here thinking of that old joke!
I've occasionally been pestered by Jehovah's Witnesses. You just have to politely cut them off and shut the door.
Sometimes missionaries can be pests, but I've never seen a hint of any kind of threat or violence. Just shut the door on them if you don't want to be pestered.
After all, they are doing good according to their lights. I'll take a Jehovah's Witness to a telemarketer any day.
I don't either. It sounds too fabricated to fit her personal anti-Christian attitude.
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