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Los Angeles Daily News ^ | April 23, 2005 | Lisa M. Sodders and Brent Hopkins

Posted on 04/23/2005 2:59:18 PM PDT by La Enchiladita

Saturday, April 23, 2005 - Cranky schoolchildren, electronic chaos and increased sales of double espressos -- those are just some of the effects that would ripple through Americans' lives under a plan moving through Congress to extend daylight-saving time by two months a year.

Under the plan that was approved by the House of Representatives and sent to the Senate, California and other states would "spring forward" in March rather than April and "fall back" in November rather than October.

"It's gonna be chaos, man," said Viken Fermanian, owner of Salco Services, an electronics repair shop in Granada Hills, predicting there would be no easy fix to the daylight-saving time change hard-wired into everything from wristwatches to VCRs.

While computer software can be reprogrammed to accommodate different dates, hardware presents a trickier problem.

"The worst thing that'll happen is (the device will) change the time for you, but it'll be the wrong time. If Congress changes the date, you'll get every electronics manufacturer scrambling to change their processors," he said.

But supporters of the plan -- tucked into a sweeping federal energy bill approved by the House this week -- note that any drawbacks would be outweighed by the energy savings provided by maximizing daylight hours.

"It's the most painless way to save any energy at all, and it has some other advantages: It reduces crime and traffic accidents," said Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Sherman Oaks.

Sherman and other supporters cite Department of Transportation studies from the mid-1970s that found such a move could save the equivalent of 100,000 barrels of oil each day that daylight-saving time is extended.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: daylightsavingtime; dst; energy; energybill; tinkeringwithtime
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To: Radioactive

Maybe we should start a rumor that the government reduced the hours of daylight in the winter because Congress is beholden to the energy companies.


101 posted on 04/24/2005 11:32:46 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: discostu

I get an extra hour on the lake in my speedboat, more fishing time. As well as trap/skeet range time.


102 posted on 04/24/2005 11:36:12 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: La Enchiladita
So standard time would be for 3 monthes of the year while daylight savings time would be for 9 months. Uh ...... which one is the standard?I've got an idea ...... why not put this to a vote during the next national election and lets see what the people want.
103 posted on 04/24/2005 11:40:53 AM PDT by fella
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To: Cobra64

Here in AZ, where we don't make people shift their clock twice a year, the sun sets around 8 in high summer, the work day ends at 5, and if you're smart you've got less than a half hour commute. That still leave 2 1/2 hours for whatever fun you want to do before the sun sets. Plenty of time. And we're pretty far down south so the day is actually pretty short compared much of the country. Really watch the sun set and do the math, I bet 90% of the time you're done and inside more than an hour before sunset anyway, no daylight saving would actually have zero effect on your life except not making you change the clock twice a year.

And even if it didn't why should the rest of the world have to change their clock twice a year just to give you more leasure time. If you want more time to screw around on your boat talk to your boss, don't make the rest of the world do the work for your fun.


104 posted on 04/24/2005 11:52:25 AM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: discostu
That still leave 2 1/2 hours for whatever fun you want to do before the sun sets. Plenty of time.

"Plenty of time" by your standards. Length of time is a relative concept. And by your definition I am stupid because DST is stupid and I happen to LIKE DST.

I am an outdoorsman. I like to have as much waking-hours daylight as I can. An extra hour in the day is something I like.

105 posted on 04/24/2005 12:06:30 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Verginius Rufus
Maybe we should start a rumor that the government reduced the hours of daylight in the winter because Congress is beholden to the energy companies. Yeah, that would be a hoot!

I bet there would be a great outcry about that and we could even get the federal government involved by getting a contact congress campaign going that would really shake up the government.

Kind of reminds me of the ban di-hydrogen monoxide campaign that was going around a few years back.

106 posted on 04/24/2005 12:15:52 PM PDT by Radioactive (I'm on the radio..so I'm radioactive)
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To: Cobra64

No by my definition you're rude because you make the rest of the world change their clock to suit your WANTS.

Enjoy waking daylight hours all you want, but manipulate YOUR schedule to get them, not mine. You don't GET an extra hour of daylight, all you get is different label on the hours of daylight. No part of changing the country's clock bestows more daylight, all it does is relabel them.


107 posted on 04/24/2005 12:38:07 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: discostu

I said WAKING HOURS. DST has been around longer than most of us have, so stop your whining, move to Indiana and go back to playing video games.


108 posted on 04/24/2005 12:49:44 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64

You said "An extra hour in the day is something I like." No waking in that sentence, nothing but a false statement.

I live in AZ, that's how I KNOW that there is absolutely no need for DST, that's how I KNOW that is moronic. And even thow I don't have to change my clocks I still have to change my VCR programs to deal with the shift in the TV schedule made necessary just to make you happy. I'm not whining, I'm simply pionting out the painfully obvious, DST is stupid and all of the "benefits" that people supposedly derive from it can be gotten by working with their own personal schedule and not inconveniencing any one else. I'm outside after work almost every single day of the year, including winter, I know how to manipulate my own schedule to get the daylight hours where I want them in my life without having to make you change your clock.

Very typical of your DST fan, demand the rest of the world change for your fun, then attack people that point out it's a silly idea.


109 posted on 04/24/2005 12:54:39 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: discostu

You win. I'm not going to do battle with mentally unarmed individuals.


110 posted on 04/24/2005 12:58:13 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64

If you're so well armed why do you have to resort to insults? Nothing is faster at proving you know logic is against you than resorting to insults. Bring facts next time you want to discuss something with me, leave the insults for your dog.


111 posted on 04/24/2005 1:03:15 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: MilspecRob

Oh, go on. It's beautiful right now with the snow almost gone and the trash and bare ground sticking out of the muck and the mosquitoes not out yet, not today anyway.


112 posted on 04/24/2005 4:28:08 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: Cobra64

Whenever Feb 29 falls on a Sunday, it is always the FIFTH Sunday - never the FOURTH Sunday.


113 posted on 04/24/2005 5:37:45 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: La Enchiladita
Thought I'd visit the thread to see if it was still being posted to and by-golly it is:

It was:  Posted on 04/23/2005 2:59:18 PM PDT by La Enchiladita

and it is still Daylight Saving Time, except on the one clock I did not change.

114 posted on 04/24/2005 6:26:25 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Whenever Feb 29 falls on a Sunday, it is always the FIFTH Sunday - never the FOURTH Sunday.

Ah. I get it. However, we need to factor in whether it is a full moon causing high tides. And what will be the effect on left handed, one-eyed Chinamen over the age of 40. This is certainly series, and the impact could be hugh as to the speed rotation of the planet and the axis shift as season change. Then there is the sun-spot issue. This neutrenos can disrupt hospitals MRI's equipment. LOL

115 posted on 04/24/2005 6:40:28 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Squantos; Buddy B

Okay, Zulu time it is. Especially since they adjust for leap milliseconds.


116 posted on 04/25/2005 2:28:38 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Extra omnea!)
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To: supercat
...really dumb, annoying, and assinine.

Really great definition of Congress critters.

117 posted on 04/25/2005 2:31:39 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Extra omnea!)
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To: lawdude
The Navajo reservation goes w/DST but most of Indiana does not.

Oh, take it easy. That made my head spin!

118 posted on 04/25/2005 2:33:18 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Extra omnea!)
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To: savedbygrace
It's one of the dumbest ideas Congress ever got ahold of.

That's saying a LOT.

119 posted on 04/25/2005 2:36:46 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Extra omnea!)
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To: Cobra64
Since I'm retired, I sleep later,..

Oh. Rub it in. Just rub it IN.

120 posted on 04/25/2005 2:40:26 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Extra omnea!)
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