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Georgia responsible for Soviet genocide, claims Russian ambassador to Ukraine
UPI ^ | Apr. 21, 2005

Posted on 04/22/2005 10:03:43 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

According to former Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, now Russian ambassador to Ukraine, Georgia is more to blame for the Soviet genocide against Ukrainians than Russia. Chernomyrdin told journalists, "If we speak about terror in the times of the U.S.S.R., as a result of that, the number of Russians killed was far greater than that of Ukrainians. We still cannot answer to our people for that. If anyone is to receive claims, address them to Georgia, the 'father of nations' Joseph Stalin was from that country." During the U.S.S.R.'s 1932-1933 collectivization drive, an estimated 5 million to 7 million Ukrainians in the "bread basket" of the U.S.S.R. perished during a famine deliberately instituted by Stalin.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: chernomyrdin; genocide; georgia; realbadexcuse; russia; sovietunion; ukraine
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Never mind the fact that Stalin sided with the Russian Bolsheviks when they invaded and conquered Georgia, changed his name to a Russian name and exiled hundreds of thousands of Georgians to Siberia.

I guess we are also supposed to forget how Georgian troops were fighting alongside Americans in Iraq, while the Russians were actively helping Saddam kill our soldiers.

1 posted on 04/22/2005 10:03:44 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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And therefore Germany isn't responsible for the Holocaust, because Hitler was Austrian.


2 posted on 04/22/2005 10:08:27 AM PDT by Phocion (Abolish the 16th Amendment.)
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To: MeekOneGOP; lizol; sergey1973; Destro; jb6

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3 posted on 04/22/2005 10:29:55 AM PDT by anonymoussierra (Benedictum Nomen Sanctum eius. Benedictum Cor eius sacratissimum.Benedicta excelsa Mater Dei, Maria)
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And after Stalin all the USSR leaders were from the Ukraine until Gorbachev.


4 posted on 04/22/2005 10:34:13 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yeah...the Bulldogs were kinda hard on the Crimson Tide, too...


5 posted on 04/22/2005 10:42:57 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Red6; BrooklynGOP; Destro; A. Pole; MarMema; YoungCorps; OldCorps; chukcha; ...
Yeah, never mind Stalin slaughtered the Tarek (Russian) Cossaks, gave away Grozny and the Tarek lands to the Chechyns. Never mind that Baria was Magrillian, a subset of Georgians and head of the NKVD. Never mind Stalin killed off 26 million RUSSIANS and 10 million other Soviet citizens. Never mind that Stalin forcably annexed Abhazia and South Ossessia to Georgia and then made the Abhaz orphans in their own land (just like the Irish in Ireland under the English), giving away everything to fellow Georgians.

Never mind Stalin built tons of industry in Georgia and then shipped resources upto 5,000km to feed that industry. Never mind Georgians didn't pay taxes like the rest. Never mind that under Stalin, Tbilisi's 700 year old Armenian cemetary was stripped of tombstones that were then used for paving stones and can still be seen today in places where the asphalt has worn off (about everywhere).

Georgian troops were fighting alongside Americans in Iraq, while the Russians were actively helping Saddam kill our soldiers.

Another typical lie of yours. First, the Russians never actively helped Saddam kill American troops and during the invasion, when Saddam was in power, there were no Georgian troops taking part in the fighting.

Never mind that Georgia takes $100 million in US military aid to keep Pankisi from being an Al Quida training grounds and does nothing about it. The dumb Jihadies killed in Chechnya almost all have their Georgian stamped entry visas since Tbilisi is the gate house to Islamic Jihad in the Caucuses. Never mind that Baseyov officially announced that he is allied to Saakashvili who was silent and did not deny it.

6 posted on 04/22/2005 12:28:32 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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By the way, at the rate of $100 million a year for a nation of 5 million for military aid alone and another $100+ million in other aid and Saakashvili admitted publically that for the first year he and his drew salaries from Soros organizations alone.


7 posted on 04/22/2005 12:32:02 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: jb6; Tailgunner Joe; Red6; BrooklynGOP; Destro; A. Pole; MarMema; YoungCorps; OldCorps; chukcha
It is not Georgia's fault per say - Communism is an ethnicity repressing and national identity/religion destroying "Utopian one world" ideology. The Russian people followed by the Ukrainian people were the most repressed because they maintained strongest national identities. Communism was not the responsibility of any one ethnicity - if we started to do this ethnic responsibility game we would blame the Jewish people beyond proportion because they were heavily involved in the ranks of the Communist party.
8 posted on 04/22/2005 12:37:21 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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Never mind the fact that Stalin sided with the Russian Bolsheviks when they invaded and conquered Georgia, changed his name to a Russian name and exiled hundreds of thousands of Georgians to Siberia.===

Bolshevicks was international mostly non-russian citizens of Russian Empire. Russians were between bolshevicks but minority.
Between leadership of bolshevicks: Lenin-chuvashian, Stalin- georgian, Trotskii (the father - founder of Red Army) - jew, Kamenev- jew, Zinoviev -jew, Sveldlov- jew, Lunacharskii- ukranian, Podvoiskii - ukranian, Dzerzhinskii (the father-founder of CheKa-OGPU-NKWD) - polack. It is members of Lenin goverment.


9 posted on 04/22/2005 12:59:18 PM PDT by RusIvan
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And Russia repays the greatest slaughterer of Russians ever by erecting monuments to him.


10 posted on 04/22/2005 1:07:58 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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...."Utopian one world" ideology.

That must be where soros got his crappy idea for his "open society" organization.

11 posted on 04/22/2005 1:11:41 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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Look, I cannot stand FDR or Truman for their SOCIALISTIC politics. However, for their efforts in WWII... I would say "yes" to a monument to them.


12 posted on 04/22/2005 1:14:11 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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I don't think very many Americans would be too pleased with a monument to Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt, especially one depicting the cowardly betrayal of eastern Europe at Yalta which condemned millions to enslavement behind the iron curtain.


13 posted on 04/22/2005 1:18:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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And lets not forget that Roosovelt and Churchill are also on that monument. I just love how leave out key details as your modus operandi.


14 posted on 04/22/2005 1:49:11 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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I don't think very many Americans would be too pleased with a monument to Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt,

You sound just like those NYorkers who scream for the South to tear down any statues to Lee or Jackson or Stewart.

15 posted on 04/22/2005 1:51:58 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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That one actually made me laugh, jb!

Are you actually comparing Robert E. Lee with Joseph Stalin?

16 posted on 04/22/2005 2:00:14 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Are you actually comparing Robert E. Lee with Joseph Stalin?

No, silly, I'm comparing your answer and mindset to the ACLU and NAACP. They're a much better fit.

17 posted on 04/22/2005 2:27:32 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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I'm sure the ACLU is on your side on the question of erecting monuments to Stalin.


18 posted on 04/22/2005 2:38:46 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Nope, you see, just like the ACLU, you like revising history to fit your current agenda. You two are soul mates.


19 posted on 04/22/2005 2:44:00 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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And Russia repays the greatest slaughterer of Russians ever by erecting monuments to him.

The Volgograd statue shows Stalin, FDR, and Churchill, and is not there to honor Stalin, but the victory of the Allies over Hitler. Why is so important for you to continue to lie?
20 posted on 04/22/2005 2:45:01 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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